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I've seen a lot of penetration items but not too much items with reduction. Since you can't penetrate below 0 how often it occurs (and how) that you reduce someone's magic resist / armor below 0? With which champions?

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It is possible to get someone's magic resist/armor below zero with proper items/skills/spells. Like you said magic/armor penetration doesn't do that. Only % magic/ resist/armor reduction and flat magic resist/armor reduction.


MAGIC RESISTANCE REDUCTION

ITEMS

  • Abyssal Scepter: Unique Aura: Reduces the magic resistance of nearby enemy champions by 20. +70 ability power, +45 magic resistance. 2650 gold.
  • Malady: Unique Passive: Your basic attacks reduce enemy magic resistance by 4 for 8 seconds. Stacks up to 7 times. +25 ability power, 50% attack speed. Unique Passive: Your physical attacks shred your target doing 15 + 10% of your ability power as bonus magic damage. 2035 gold.

ABILITIES

Flat magic reduction:

  • Amumu's Cursed Touch passively makes his autoattacks reduce the magic resistance of enemies hit by 15 / 25 / 35 for 3 seconds.
  • Fiddlesticks's Dread passively reduces the magic resistance of nearby enemies by 10.
  • Heimerdinger's H-28G Evolution Turret, at rank 2 and above, reduces armor and magic resistance by 1 per hit for 2 seconds (effect stacks up to 50 times).
  • Kog'Maw's Caustic Spittle reduces the magic resistance of the target by 5 / 10 / 15 / 20 / 25 for 4 seconds.
  • Morgana's Tormented Soil reduces the magic resistance of all targets by 4 / 5 / 6 / 7 / 8 each second for 5 seconds.
  • Ryze's Spell Flux reduces the magic resistance of all targets by 12 / 15 / 18 / 21 / 24 magic resistance reduction for 5 seconds.
  • Soraka's Starcall reduces the magic resistance of all targets by 8 / 9 / 10 / 11 / 12 for 8 seconds (effect stacks up to 10 times).

Percentage magic reduction:

  • Trundle's Agony steals magic resistance of the target by 15% / 20% / 25%, this amount is doubled over the next 6 seconds.

  • Jayce's Transform: Mercury Cannon grants his next auto attack to reduce the enemy's magic resist by 10% / 15% / 20% / 25% for 5 seconds.

  • Karthus's Wall of Pain reduces the magic resistance of all targets affected by 15% for 5 seconds.

  • Kayle's Holy Fervor allows her autoattacks against enemy champions reduces their magic resistance by 3% for 5 seconds (effect stacks up to 5 times).

  • Nidalee's Bushwhack reduces the armor and magic resistance of enemies that step on the trap by 20% / 25% / 30% / 35% / 40% for 12 seconds.

SUMMONER SPELLS

  • Exhaust, when augmented by Summoner's Wrath, reduces the target's magic resistance by 10 for its duration.

ARMOR REDUCTION

ITEMS

  • The Black Cleaver: Unique passive: Dealing physical damage to an enemy champion reduces their Armor by 6.25% for 4 seconds. This debuff stacks up to 4 times.+250 health, +50 attack damage, +10% Cooldown Reduction. Unique: +10 Armor Penetration. 3000 gold.

ABILITIES

Percentage Reduction:

  • Jarvan IV's Dragon Strike reduces the armor of all enemies hit by 10% / 14% / 18% / 22% / 26% for 3 seconds.
  • Jayce's Transform: Mercury Cannon reduces the armor and magic resistance of the enemy hit by his first attack after cast, by 10% / 15% / 20% / 25% for 5 seconds
  • Kayle's Holy Fervor reduces the armor and magic resistance of enemies hit by her autoattacks by 3% for 5 seconds. This debuff stacks up to 5 times.
  • Nidalee's Bushwhack reduces the armor and magic resistance of enemies that step on the trap by 20% / 25% / 30% / 35% / 40% for 12 seconds.
  • Renekton's Slice and Dice, when empowered by having more than 50 Fury, Dice will reduce the armor of all enemies hit by 15% / 20% / 25% / 30% / 35% for 4 seconds.
  • Shyvana's Flame Breath reduces the armor of all targets hit by 15% for 4 seconds.
  • Trundle's Agony reduces the armor and magic resistance of his target by 15% / 20% / 25% and gains for the same amount. This amount is doubled over the next 6 seconds.
  • Urgot's Noxian Corrosive Charge reduced the armor of all enemies hit by 12% / 14% / 16% / 18% / 20% for 5 seconds.
  • Vi's Denting Blows reduces the target's armor by 20% for 4 seconds after every third consecutive hit.
  • Wukong's Crushing Blow reduces the armor of the target hit by 30% for 3 seconds.
  • Xin Zhao's Challenge reduces the armor of targets hit by his basic attacks or Audacious Charge by 15% for 3 seconds. Only one target may be challenged at a given time

Flat Reduction:

  • Corki's Gatling Gun fires automatically every half second, reducing enemies armor with each hit by 2 / 4 / 6 / 8 / 10 for 2 seconds.

  • Heimerdinger's H-28G Evolution Turret, while in ranks 2, 3, 4 and 5, the turrets' attacks reduce armor and magic resist by 1 per hit stacking up to 50 times.

  • Kog'Maw's Caustic Spittle reduces the target's armor and magic resistance by 5 / 10 / 15 / 20 / 25 for 4 seconds.

  • Nasus's Spirit Fire reduces the armor of all enemies in the area by 20 / 25 / 30 / 35 / 40 for the time they are on it plus 1 second.

  • Rammus's Puncturing Taunt reduces the target's armor by 10 / 15 / 20 / 25 / 30 for 1 / 1.5 / 2 / 2.5 / 3 seconds.

  • Taric's Shatter reduces the armor of all enemies hit by its activation damage by 10 / 15 / 20 / 25 / 30 for 4 seconds.

SUMMONER SPELLS

  • Exhaust, when augmented by Summoner's Wrath, reduces the target's armor by 10 for its duration.

SOURCE

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EXAMPLE

An easy example that everyone can try out and find out if armor can actually go negative is this:

Heimerdinger's level 1 Armor is 10. So get Corki and get exhaust with the Summoner's Wrath mastery.
Go meet each other at a lane (level 1) and exhaust him and use Gatling Gun on him for 2 seconds and watch his Armor become 10 - 10 - 8 = -8!!

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I know all of those items / skills. The emphasis was on in practice. –  Adam Arold Jan 11 '13 at 12:04
    
Don't separate those info from "Practice". Pick any champion of the above. Get exhaust and buy one of the items in the list and you have a good chance of getting an opponent (usually a squishy one) with negative resistances. In practice.. –  Panagiotis Palladinos Jan 11 '13 at 12:19
    
@AdamArold Im just not sure if you can achieve this with only one champion. Do the math if u want to find out. But im certain that with 2 champions together it would be fairly easy. –  Panagiotis Palladinos Jan 11 '13 at 12:30
    
@AdamArold Actually you can! I added an example in the end of my answer above. –  Panagiotis Palladinos Jan 11 '13 at 12:37
    
Thanks for the explanation. –  Adam Arold Jan 11 '13 at 12:58

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