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I have around 150 hours in Dota 2. I know most characters move sets and skills, and I last hit rather efficiently. (Around 85% of the time when not near any tower). I usually play carry, and I do rather well in public matches I get matched up in. When I play with my friends who have significantly more experience than me, (Around 600 hours each) I ALWAYS fall behind in not just XP but gold. I'm around level 8 when everyone else is 11 and my net worth is lower. Even if I have significantly more last hits than them, I'm always behind in gold from team fights I suppose. I show to team fights late, and never get any assists which may be a problem. And specific details that can help me catch up in level and stop being targeted in team fights?

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its definitely due to not showing up for team fights. –  z ' Feb 10 at 17:09
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Make sure you're always carrying and using TP's and this problem will probably solve itself. –  Decency Feb 10 at 18:56
    
My honest opinion is that you should put more hours in to the game if you want to be the same level as experienced players. I have more than 500 hours to my name, I know most hero's and how to use them well, but find that my game knowledge as a whole isn't as good as experienced players. Just try to always be in xp range when in lane and also try to avoid jungle hero's if you are not good at jungling. Use tp's to get to team fights quick and also don't be the first to die otherwise you get zero xp. –  PythonNovice Feb 25 at 18:40
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Playing carry is truly difficult when it comes to decision making. I play carry in my party most of the time (being the most experienced player) so I can give you some advice and simple rules to follow.

General lane behaviour in early game

  • If you are good at last hitting, maintain the creep equilibrium close to your tower but not in tower range. Ask your support to zone the enemy out so you won't get denied. That's the first step of not losing XP in lane.

  • Farming > killing. Don't ever waste time chasing or ganking or rotating lane as a carry. You only want to farm as much as possible. Take a kill when its effortless and won't make you lose more than 1 creepwave. In term of gold 5 last hit is ~200+ gold (same as a kill). If the enemy offlaner is running away with low health, just let him go, he's wasting time, not earning gold or xp which is fine enough for you.

  • Early teamfight are not your responsibility but your mid's one. Except if the fight happens in the safelane where you should be farming, never TP to a teamfight. Few carries can teamfight early on anyway (Maybe Gyro or nai'x can bring something to the table). But usually, a carry's skill set doesn't allow him to fight early. It's also your teams responsibility to not take early bad fight.

  • Depending on the difficulty of your lane, ask your support to rotate in the jungle (stack and pull neutrals) or gank the other lane. If you can handle the enemy offlaner alone and if your support leave, you will earn way more xp by being alone in the lane (they just have to ward the nearby jungle so you don't get ganked easily).

  • If you are having a hard time (versus a trilane or an very aggressive dual lane) consider rotating lanes, going to the jungle or run a defensive trilane.

  • Don't build a midas unless you have free farm. And remember : since the 6.79 using the midas on the jungle is not worth it if you lose more than 2 creeps in lane so be carefull when you use it.

The mid game

In the midgame, your mid player should start rotating and creating you more space. Allowing you to farm more

  • Profit of the early mid game (10/15 min into the game) to take down the enemy offlane 1st tower.If you can jungle (lifesteal, battlefury, maelstrom), you have now a safer jungle where you can farm creeps easily, letting the lane for your support to get some gold. Defend your safelane tower only when creeps come too close and go back in the jungle

  • You can start showing to teamfight, let people get focused first then jump in and kill the easy targets (support, squishy heroes, low life heroes). If you win the fight take the tower and go back to farm > Repeat.

In teamfight

  • Never ever (ever) start a fight on your own, you let the initiator (clockwerk, earthshaker, magnus, tide, whatever) do his job then you jump in. Unless you are void, then you better hit that perfect chrono.

  • Don't focus the enemy carry unless you are sure to kill him. At some point you can take the support fairly quickly and win the fight by outnumbering them.

  • If the fight is lost : ditch and run for your life. You are the most important hero on the team if you want to win so don't throw your life in a lost fight. It's the responsibility of your team to not take bad fights but its yours to not follow them in a lost battle (in this scenario communicating is the key).

  • If you are always getting focused : build a bkb. Low level player tend to want to farm their big damage items on carry (like crits, MKB, Mantastyle etc.) but those item are useless if you die within seconds. In those situation recognize that you need a BKB and build it.

Some tips to have in mind

  • If you are last hitting correctly and not being contested, you should have about 60cs (= creepstats = last hits) by 10 min.
  • Don't buy a midas after 8 min into the game
  • If you are a squishy hero (luna, AM etc.) : get strength power treads before rushing a big item, it can save your life more than you think.
  • If you build treads, put them on strength, you will gain more survivability. Gaining 8 damage and 8 Attack speed is not worth the risk of getting bursted down.
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Midas after 8 mins isn't necessarily bad. Also, save up gold, see what opponent's carry is up to. Btw, treads are +8 stats, not +10 :) –  elmigranto Feb 10 at 22:07
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What's "cs" exactly? –  Ramhound Feb 10 at 23:37
    
@Ramhound CS = Creep Stats or Creep Score, it's the same as last hits and I believe it originates from the Dota 1 scoreboard. –  Hex Feb 11 at 6:28
    
@ramhound in DotA 1 the command -cson (creepstats on )was used to show creepstats –  Wandang Feb 11 at 7:36
    
@elmigranto I would have agreed with you on the last patch but the 6.80 shaped a very early push/fight oriented meta, so the later the midas the worst. You could build it at 8 min given its your second item and you have a great farm rate, if not I'd rather go for utility (Drums is good, or an ogre club for a future BKB)) –  WizLiz Feb 11 at 7:51
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