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I'm trying to understand how you can effectively dominate a SWAT/FBI/whatever law enforcement in payday 2, because only certain ones are "able" to be dominated. which confuses me, how is this determined?

Also, I already know that tasers and higher can't be dominated, but the question is for the weaker forces, regular SWAT/FBI and guards.

Anyone on this list of law enforcement: http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/Enemies_%28Payday_2%29

The further down the list you go, obviously the harder it is to dominate them, but what determines this? Is there any clue to try to dominate a specific one instead getting myself killed trying to do so.

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Guards are all created equally. You are allowed one dominated guard per played after 4 are dominated it won't work. Also you can't dominate after a shot is fired at them. –  Ramhound Feb 14 at 20:31
    
I'm really just trying to get an answer that doesn't say its random, because i don't think anything in games is ever random, they just might seem random, but they normally work under some kind of formula/algorithm. –  Sickest Feb 14 at 20:46
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The skill is chance based... Does that help? –  Ramhound Feb 14 at 21:04
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@Ramhound which means it's random xd –  Loko Feb 14 at 21:13
    
@Sickest Ever heard of an RNG? There is a massive number of things in games that are random... Really not sure where you got otherwise. –  Waterseas May 16 at 14:35

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Domination has a complex set of conditions and multipliers that affect your chances, and there is a state and duration combination that is very similar to shouting down civilians. The Long Guide has a section, "Domination," just after the ones on stealth. It's a long section, but well worth reading.

During stealth, if you shout at them (and have Domination skill) within 1.5 seconds of alerting, you will succeed.

Out of stealth, an enemy will never surrender if he is at full health and not reloading.

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It's random. If you have the skill dominator from the mastermind tree, you can dominate in stealth like 99% of the time. While you're already seen and the alarm has been set off, it's alot harder.

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  • The further down the list you go, obviously the harder it is to dominate them, but what determines this? Is there any clue to try to dominate a specific one instead getting myself killed trying to do so.

the tactic everyone uses is just shoot him with a bullet till he really stops shooting and then try it again. Do this over and over again. There isn't a clue to try to dominate a specific one.

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thats not true, i have those perks and its not 99% of the time whats so ever. It's not even close to 99%, more like 10% with FBI / Swat. –  Sickest Feb 14 at 20:27
    
Depends if they have been shot at. Your current question only says guards not FBI/SWAT... –  Ramhound Feb 14 at 20:29
    
@Ramhound Yeah which counts as most stealth missions. Thats why I say 99%. Guards are like very easy. There isn't a real specific chance. –  Loko Feb 14 at 20:30
    
@Sickest FBI? FBI isn't hard to dominate... You mean the ones from firestarter day 2? Swat isn't even there when in stealth. –  Loko Feb 14 at 20:31
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@Ramhound Can you please use @ username so people know you are talking to them. Now he wont be notified –  Loko Feb 14 at 21:02

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