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I have been ripped off a couple of times recently trading for hats and weapons in Team Fortress 2 - is there a price guide available anywhere that I can reference to stop this from happening?

Obviously I don't expect it to be perfect, the prices I get will differ from person to person, but even a general indicator would be helpful.

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I don't know how often it's updated, but TF2spreadsheet seems reasonable (formerly located here).

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This helped me when you posted it in chat. It seems that it is updated relatively frequently; the top right-hand corner shows when it was last updated. Can you please remind us what NV/NG stands for in the 5th column. – bcpettifer Jun 4 '11 at 15:37
@jaminja: Not Vintage/Not Genuine – user2974 Jun 4 '11 at 15:48
What does "Dirty" / "Clean" refer to? – Raven Dreamer Jun 4 '11 at 17:18
@RavenDreamer Items that are not tradable or have had gift wrap used on them. – user56 Jun 4 '11 at 17:33
Just saying, TF2Spreadsheet is extremely corrupt. The admins have been known to manipulate the spreadsheet in favor of items they own (to raise the price). It is also fairly common to find prices that are extremely unaccurate on TF2Spreadsheet. – waifu Mar 23 '13 at 19:52

Due to some recent events last year, I would actually recommend against using tf2spreadsheet. provides a much more accurate and up-to-date table of prices, as everyone in the community contributes, not just a single (and revealed to be slightly dishonest) individual.

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The best website I have found is: HERE. It's community run, and constantly updated, so you're always getting the right price for the right item.

It lists items based on their refined value, or bills/buds value, and has the list for both vintage and non vintage versions of applicable items.

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That was the guide I hate, they change the items price several time and I feel they are just either follow the trend of whoever said in the server. I hate this one :( – user13934 Nov 10 '11 at 16:20
@Adam The reason it changes a lot is because the economy changes a lot. You'll never find a guide that stays the same constantly. – Mr Smooth Nov 10 '11 at 16:24
Yea, but i realize that he change price mostly without saying anything about why he changed it, while the other one seem does better on that. I am going with the other one, thanks though :) – user13934 Nov 10 '11 at 16:29
Just to note, while I realise this is the same as the accepted answer, it was merged from another question, so I'm going to leave it. – Mr Smooth Nov 10 '11 at 18:13
TF2 Spreadsheet is extremely corrupt. – waifu Mar 23 '13 at 19:53

I use TF2 Pricing Guide a lot, don't know what spreadsheet you talking about, but I like this one.

It really boosted my trading skill because it gave me a range to do the bargaining so that both the seller and me are happy :D

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Hum............this one, I checked, its interesting, I saw there is price range for each item, I guess I can get a better sense this way. Thanks! – user13934 Nov 10 '11 at 16:21
"wep Spy The Clock and Dagger -- 2 ~ 3 scraps .66~1ref -- -- -- d/p Higher price because no blue print, only purchasable" what? It's a frikkin' achievement item. – badp Nov 10 '11 at 16:56
If achievement it will be not tradable in trade at all, will you get a wrap on a deal ringer? :D – user13934 Nov 10 '11 at 17:17
Um, Cloak and Daggers (and yes, "Clock and Dagger" is misspelled) is a random drop item... Not only that, but Spy Token + PDA Token + Scrap has a 50% chance of crafting the Cloak and Dagger (and 50% chance of crafting the Dead Ringer). – user2974 Nov 18 '11 at 17:48

TF2WH can give you a good starting point. Except for unusuals, prices are determined automatically from supply and demand (price change list here) and your chances of landing a bad deal decrease accordingly.

The unit of measure there is a credit, a 4,500th of a refined metal. You can request prices for any item here. (TF2WH doesn't accept non-craftable items, for the record, and the prices reflect that.)

Just keep in mind that the prices are not necessarily aligned with what you'd get from users. The idiot box, for example, is priced at 900 credits, or less than two scraps... if you can find it there, given that apparently people are willing to buy an idiot box for a refined on tf2outpost. (Ugh.)

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A recent addition to this list would be a website known as This one is also a particular contender, since rather than relying on a community-driven system, like, the prices are determined through a bot that pulls in recent trades in the past 24 hours to determine the current price. Their FAQ states:

How does the spreadsheet work?

It all starts with a robot that polls user inventory changes from over 150,000 users.

  • First we determine what items were removed and what items were added

  • Second we clean the trade: in the added items, we check where they came from (drop, purchase, etc...) and eliminate the ones we know for sure are not coming from a trade

  • Third, we store the trade to be processed by the mathematical model

Every hour, the mathematical model is run on:

  • The trades from the last 24 hours

  • If there are not enough trades for a particular item in the last 24 hours, we use trades including this item for last 48 hours, or 72 hours and so on until there are a statistically high enough number of trades.

Even if you'd still prefer pricing, those are also shown on each item's page, and there are more features on the site other than pricing. It also contains a search feature for trades across different trading sites and allows you to pick out good deals to make profit off of, along with an insta-trading system allowing you to automatically accept any trade offer meeting the criteria you set.

Note: Unfortunately, as the FAQ states, Unusual items aren't tracked on the spreadsheet. This is simply because unusual trades happen too rarely for the bot to take them into account. This may also be the case for Collector's items.

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