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After many many years of StarCraft 1 I've finally built up the courage to face possible disappointment in StarCraft 2 and bought myself a shiny new copy of it.

I've played my way through 10 or so campaign missions and am definitely not disappointed - the way they've stayed really close to the original is PERFECT.

However, I noticed something last night when I played online with a friend for the first time:

In single player, I have access to Medics and Goliaths. Terran is my favourite race to PvP with in SC1 and those are two key units of Terran in my opinion. In fact, without Medics; Terran is pretty pathetic until you work up to larger units.

In battlenet or custom games, I don't have access to Medics or Goliaths.. Am I missing something? Do I need to unlock them or something? Or are they just not available in anything other than the campaign?

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Similar question to gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/21837/… –  Crag Jun 28 '11 at 0:25
    
@Crag Cheers... –  Marty Jun 28 '11 at 0:28
    
It's funny because people constantly complain about how Terran is overpowered. Especially IdrA (it's hilarious). –  Brendan Long Jun 28 '11 at 5:50
    
+1 as soon as I read the first sentence. –  GSerg Jun 29 '11 at 22:31
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So, Medics and Goliaths aren't in the SC2 multiplayer. Having played Broodwars before I can understand your disappointment. However, that doesn't mean Terran is under-powered.

Medics had an important role in the original Broodwar meta-game of helping you survive until you hit Factory Tech (or allowing +1 Bio timings). As a unit, they functioned to give Marines extra needed beef so they could survive Zergling/Hydralisk and Zealot/Dragoon. In SC2, this roll is replaced with the Marauder. The Marauder is an Armored unit with 125 HP and 1 Armor. This makes it ideal for dealing with fast attacking Zerglings and Zealots. In addition, it does double damage against Stalkers (Dragoon replacement) and Roaches (Hydralisk replacement as they were moved to Tier 2). The flip side is that they do very little cost effective DPS to Zerglings and Zealots (though they do have an upgrade which slows those units to make them easy prey for Marines). This allows for strong Marine/Marauder Bio pushes (usually off of 3 Barracks). Additionally, Marines have an upgrade called Combat Shield which give them an extra 10hp of Beef.

Between Combat Shield and Marauders, Blizzard didn't feel that Marines needed more beef in the tier 1 arena. However, because of the mechanic of Stim (same ability, but also applies to Marauders), they did add in the Medic as a tier 3 unit. Although, at tier 3 a simple Medic was too little, so they instead merged this unit with Dropships to form the Medivac. This unit allows the weaker Bio army to continue to function well into the late game.


Goliaths were another unit which was cut from SC2. While Marines still serve as a decent anti-air platform, they had neither the Range nor the heft of the Goliath. To compliment Marines, Thor's were added for Terran at the tier 3 level. The simplest explanation for Thors are that they're two Goliaths merged into one: twice the HP, twice the DPS, twice the cost (and twice the size!). However, because they are a tier 3 unit (and expensive) a second anti-air unit was added to the Terran army, the Viking. Vikings largely replace the Valkyrie in the tech tree, but function more similar to Goliaths than Valkyrie. Long Range (10), Single Target Anti-Air attacks that were once the trademark of the Goliath can now be found on this unit. In addition, it had the ability to transform into a land walker for ground to ground attack (providing additional harassment opportunities). While the Viking largely replaces the role of the Goliath, the Thor (strangely enough) gained the AoE of the Valkyrie, in addition to an impressive ground to ground attack (45x2). This allows them to function as a backbone for many late game Terran armies.

Things have changed between SC1 and SC2, but that doesn't mean that those roles have disappeared. With a little practice (and maybe a few VoDs), you'll start to pick up the differences between the two games.

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Great answer. It's still a shame that medics are gone. I mean, they had many used beyond making marines beefier. If you were good at managing your forces in an attack you could position them really well to give yourself massive advantages (eg put them at front and melee units would have to run around them). I gave Thor a go, but the air damage doesn't seem to do the same trick as Goliaths did (especially with the range upgrade they had). Also, the Viking is a poor replacement for Valkyries without the splash damage. 10-12 Valkyries with full attack took out 100+ mutalisks in seconds. –  Marty Jun 28 '11 at 1:42
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@Marty So, try to think of Vikings at the Goliath replacement and Thors as the Valkyrie replacement (magic box not withstanding). Now it's not a perfect replacement (Thors have some amazing ground damage and are impressively hard to kill when surrounded by repairing SCVs; kinda like Medics... hint hint), but it does give you a similar role (especially Vikings with their 9 range to the Goliath's upgraded 8). As for Mutalisks... well, I think you'll be ok –  tzenes Jun 28 '11 at 1:58
    
All makes sense. Putting healing features onto a dropship seems odd, but you're right about it seeming odd if medics were as per SC1 and were in Tier 3. Haven't really used Marauders yet; maybe that's where I've been going wrong (been finding it really hard to survive an initial attack with Terran). –  Marty Jun 28 '11 at 2:24
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@Marty try going 3 Barracks, 2 with Techlabs, 1 with a Reactor, get Concussive Shell from one techlab and Stim from the other and push out right before Stim finishes –  tzenes Jun 28 '11 at 3:26
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