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I'm about half way through my second playthrough of the game now, and realised that on the first mission at Milwaukee Junction a turret did see me. My minimap went to "hostile", but the turret did not fire, and (as far as I can tell) no alarm sounded. Being seen by any turret appears to immediately turn the minimap to saying "hostile" -- there is no 'alarmed' phase for turrets, it appears.

Does this disqualify me from Foxiest of the Hounds?

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Possible duplicate of:… – Wipqozn Sep 22 '11 at 0:57
His question isn't answered in that question, but it should be. Therefore voting to close and suggesting the answers on the duplicate be improved. – Wipqozn Sep 22 '11 at 0:58
@Wipqozn Actually his question was answered in the other question (although you need a brain to figure it out), a turret does not set off an alarm unless it opens fire (which is obvious because otherwise you would have heard an alarm) and it's stated in the other question that an alarm must go off to disqualify you from the achievement. – Mr Smooth Sep 22 '11 at 2:13
@MrSmooth Except the OP wasn't sure if an alarm went off. (as far as I can tell) no alarm sounded. This was part of the problem he was having, he wasn't sure if an alarm went off and he just missed it. Another thing to consider is the accepted answer, and the one with the most up votes states possibly hostile turrets or bots seeing you. This would just add more uncertainty. – Wipqozn Sep 22 '11 at 12:01
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Areas with alarms have those red lights dotted all over the map. When those start to flash, it means the alarm has been triggered. This is how I usually tell, as sometimes I might accidentally set off the alarm without even knowing.

Just to answer your question, under normal circumstances, as mordi2k has mentioned, as long as a turret doesn't start shooting at you, then you are safe. However, in this case there is actually no Smooth Operator bonus for the first mission in the Sarif Manufacturing Plant, hence no danger of breaking the Foxiest of all Hounds achievement to start with.

You might want to read the answer I posted on this thread:

Which missions can I earn the Ghost and/or Smooth Operator bonus on?

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That's reassuring. Thanks! – Chris Down Sep 22 '11 at 9:23

No, as long as an alarm didn't go off, you should be safe.

Quotes from the Deus Ex wiki:

This does NOT mean that you can never get an "Alerted" status from enemies, or even "Hostile" with open combat. It simply means that no alarms can be tripped, such as from a camera spotting you or a body, an alerted enemy touching an un-hacked alarm panel, etc.

It is wise to upgrade your capture software to enable you to shutdown turrets and bots; while getting their attention does not cause an alarm directly, the gunfire will get anyone's attention in the room.


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