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I was wondering why Nasus, Nunu AP, Volibear are not considered as viable solo top?

I mean, they are all decent and have sustain as well as a good snowballing potential. That's why I don't get why they're rarely ever played in competition or even in high ELO solo queue games.

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This question has no definitive answer and most likely only leads to extended discussion. As such i don't think it is fit for the Q&A format of this site and vote to close. -- On another note, each of the champions you mentioned is viable in solo top in some situations. –  dbemerlin Aug 6 '12 at 10:58
    
@dbemerlin I agree. Most League of Legends questions are very specific but still they tend to not have a answer that fully answers the question due to how highly situational the game is. That's why I tried to give a more broad answer so people can figure out how it works in reality, because most things are just experience based and not based on someone saying it works or not. –  Lerkes Aug 6 '12 at 12:13
    
You could devote a whole answer to each of the strengths and weaknesses of each champion you discuss. Furthermore, not all of the champions fit in the same category. –  Dante Aug 7 '12 at 0:24
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Nasus:

Nasus is a great late game champion if he can safely farm. The main problem with Nasus is that he is countered by a lot of champions. In lane his main worries are Gangplank, Gragas, Irelia, Lee Sin, Nidalee, Renekton, Ryze, Skarner, Tryndamere, Udyr. They all have to ability to be aggressive on you. Unfortunately, Nasus is not very good at applying pressure back and this usually leads to a lost lane. Nasus also can be easily kited in team fights.

Nunu:

Nunu has great sustain in lane and can even harass a little bit with his snowball. He also has a speed buff to make escapes and two different ways to slow the enemy (on being AoE). However, there is one major flaw to AP Nunu and that is he is not very useful in team fights. His snowball may be good for poking and harassing. But since it is on a 6 second cooldown, it can't deliver consist damage in a teamfight. His ultimate is one of the best in the game if it connects. But most league of legends players know to cancel your ultimate with CC or can escape from it. Essentially, AP Nunu is a support with no constant damage for team fights and bunch of gold from lane that could've been used on a different champion.

Volibear:

I'm not too familiar with Volibear so this section may not be as accurate as the Nasus and Nunu sections. Volibear can be good in lane against some champions. His passive makes his enemies commit to him thinking he is low in health when really he heals a ton back. He also provides a fear and a throwback similar to singed. However, Volibear has to get into the enemy's face to deal damage. Which wouldn't be a problem if he wasn't kited easily. He has trouble against ranged champions who can keep him far away. His cooldowns on his abilities are fairly high (the lowest being 8 seconds on Rolling Thunder if you max that skill first which you most likely won't. Otherwise it's 12 seconds if you put one point into it.) Enemies can literally just walk away from his ultimate if you don't have you abilities ready to CC him. Finally if Volibear doesn't dominate his lane, he can fall off late game and be kinda useless.

Final Note: All of these champions can be viable for competitive use if played correctly and against the right champions. Nunu can out poke the enemy champion and shut them down in lane. Nasus and Volibear can be played if they have the right matchup in top lane. For this reason you never want to pick these champions before you know who the enemy's top lane is (Nunu is a little safer to pick because you can always just play him in the jungle or support). It all comes down to the picks and bans.

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I don't know about Nunu AP but Nasus and Volibear are viable top laners. But the problem is that there are just better top lanes that bring more to the team (e.g. AoE CC) or they are easy countered (by the current meta).

Generally: High ELO does not play it =/= It is bad

Meta and balance shifts from time to time, there is a good chance that those champions will be played in high ELO in the future.

BTW: Anything can be made viable, period. (Just need some stuff needs "more work")

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+1, great answer, but one point of contention: Not everything can be made viable. Part of what is meant by 'viable' includes how much work is needed to make something effective. You can win a game by building Leviathan, but it is not an item most would consider 'viable'. That said, it's a fuzzy concept, and it is a subjective spectrum. Opinion differs when you get to the edges of the viable/non-viable divide. –  Christopher Berman Aug 6 '12 at 16:05
    
@ChristopherBerman Yes, my opinion is that everyone needs to get enough experience to figure out on their own. Once you are there, which things are viable or not will (mostly) be clear to you. –  Lerkes Aug 6 '12 at 19:30
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Nasus can be viable if you know how to play him, a good Nasus always have multiple tricks up his sleeve to kill and or immoblize the enemy long enough to farm the desired Q to trade back. Right now in LOW Elo Nasus is very viable since counters don't really matter but still watch who the you're laning against.

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