Timeline for What is the Elo hell?
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| May 13, 2015 at 18:53 | comment | added | Almo | That's not a wall of text. There are lots of paragraph breaks in there. Look up "hybrid RPG" if you want to see real walls of text. In all caps. | |
| May 13, 2015 at 18:01 | comment | added | Ordous | @dphil True, but those games will not be enjoyable whatsoever. Hence the term (IMHO) | |
| May 13, 2015 at 17:56 | comment | added | dphil | Not a lie for anyone. Some people just take more games is all. | |
| May 13, 2015 at 17:52 | comment | added | Ordous | @dphil And "It might take a few games to adjust" is just like saying "Just start exercising and you'll get fit in no time!", which might be true for some, but is a blatant lie for others. | |
| May 13, 2015 at 17:50 | comment | added | Ordous | @dphil Around 30 games of straight losing for Dota for a sharp meta change. Or 50 loses out of 70 games. How often does that happen? Basic maths says once in 6000 cases. So, given the popularity of the games, just by chance it will happen to a thousand gamers every month. Purely by chance. Not of any fault of their own.Increase the win chance to 60% (very large win chance actually), and you still get dozens per month. It can and does happen to people, even if most you hear from are simply ragers. | |
| May 13, 2015 at 17:38 | comment | added | dphil | Meta isn't going to change instantly at a sudden drop-off point. It's going to be a more gradual change as you fall. Anyways if you are falling that far, that isn't the problem. You were losing before you reached the meta change then. I don't think that's the reason. Regardless, players are typically less skilled at lower ELO. You can use that to your advantage even with the meta change. It might take a few games to adjust but honestly if you dropped that far you already had a lot of games to adjust. That is some big arrows saying it is completely you. | |
| May 13, 2015 at 17:34 | comment | added | Ordous | @dphil If you've played a year in a particular style, and then suddenly fell in MMR, would you really change it instantly? Within a day? Pro players take weeks to months to adjust to a major patch. It's natural to continue playing in your current style while learning a new one, and highly frustrating to be forced into it by your team (who btw are lower mmr than you) | |
| May 13, 2015 at 17:31 | comment | added | dphil | Explaining that ELO doesn't exist is really part of the definition. When you describe things, you don't leave important parts out. ELO not actually existing is part of the definition. | |
| May 13, 2015 at 17:28 | comment | added | dphil | If it causes raging then it's your fault. If your team doesn't know how to play the meta why would you force it on them? That would more likely fall under the category of you trolling if you are trying to force your team to do stuff they don't know how to do. Your second definition of ELO hell, is really just an effect of the first. The reason people can't climb out of lower ELOs is because they blame their team for feeding/trolling and such. It's not really a new definition of it. | |
| May 13, 2015 at 17:22 | comment | added | Ordous | @dphil Playing a different meta to your team often induces raging or trolling. Besides, even if the wide understanding of "ELO Hell" is "A place where trolls dwell", there is another one - an MMR so low, that you can't climb out, even if you used to be a lot higher. After all, the question as stated is: "What is ELO Hell?", not "Does there exist a place where you can't win because of trolls?" | |
| May 13, 2015 at 17:03 | comment | added | dphil | I don't really think that really describes ELO hell at all, rather almost a different game. You aren't going to lose because of what your teammates are doing at that lower meta since that's what they play at. ELO hell is the concept that you can't win because of too many trolls/ragers where you are at (which in fact does not exist like others have explained). | |
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| May 13, 2015 at 16:46 | history | answered | Ordous | CC BY-SA 3.0 |