I faced Lina mid for the first time with Pudge and was amazed at how strong she is in mid. Her early nukes are absolutely devastating.

My question is how do you counter her early game in mid so she will be crippled late game ?

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    @Kotsu Carries carry, but any hero can carry. Commented Apr 19, 2013 at 16:11
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    Lina is not a hard carry, but she can definitely semi carry with the right items late game.
    – BlueTrin
    Commented Apr 19, 2013 at 16:19
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    Are you kidding? Pudge should defeat Lina easily. If you can't do that, don't play as Pudge.
    – BlaXpirit
    Commented Apr 19, 2013 at 17:26
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    @BlaXpirit If it's easy can you explain how? That would answer his question.
    – Sadly Not
    Commented Apr 19, 2013 at 17:33
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    @BlaXpirit Lina crushes Pudge mid, not even a contest.
    – Decency
    Commented Apr 21, 2013 at 19:25

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Pudge and Lina both have similar goals as solo mid heroes as they can both snowball into midgame powerhouses easily. However, if they fail to score any kills, they become rather weak.

Neither hero is going to be able to gank too effectively prior to level 6, and so their focus is to get experience as quickly as possible. Lina's only job is to not get hooked by Pudge, and Pudge's only job is to not die. This means that Lina will be getting a majority of the last hits and harassing effectively.

Pudge should be forcing the Lina to stay in a good position for the entirety of the laning phase: his opportunities will come during rune races or when Lina does something dumb. Regarding rune races, this is where the matchup is most volatile. Both heroes should be picking up a quick Bottle, and Lina with her ability to dominate the matchup should also have rather quick Boots. Her best option is to nuke down the wave at about 1:45, 3:45, 5:45, etc. and force Pudge to skip experience to contest runes. By doing this, she can force the Pudge to take risks if he wants to have any say in the lane.

However, the Lina also has a choice: she can attempt to gank sidelanes, or she can continue to keep the Pudge weak mid. If she leaves to gank (obviously call attention to the miss immediately), the Pudge should be using that time to pick up much needed gold. After he hits level 6, he can start moving around the map constantly and leave mid to others who can use the opportunity.

Pudge is all about momentum. A skilled Lina will shut that down at the beginning of the game by not being in a position to get hooked, but she can't control your roaming. Pudge can really take advantage of the night time (between minutes 6 and 12, 18 and 24, 30 and 36, etc.) to land hooks on opponents who can't even see him. As long as you don't die repeatedly in mid, that opportunity remains open to you.

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    good answer. i would recommend skilling flesh heap at lvl 4 if the harassment via bottle crowing/arcane boots gets to much. maybe you can add that to you answer.
    – Wandang
    Commented Apr 23, 2013 at 17:10

This is interesting, you have Pudge who has the potential to be a monster at close ranged combat. Note, your strength is her (Lina's) weakness and vice-versa.

So what you need to do early game, is close the distance between her and you. If you try to run away from her, that works to her advantage.

As Pudge, you need to get up close either through different entry points in the lane (if in Mid lane, there are nice little entry points through the jungle and the points where the runes spawn. Remember to use your hook ability to latch on to Lina and grab her where you are standing, free of creeps. Just keep one thing in mind, you need to overwhelm.

Since you are mid, grab a bottle and keep bottling runes. I believe you can find a good rune bottling Pudge build.

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    I disagree with what you said about "closing the gap between her and you" for a few reasons. Pudge's priority in the mid lane is first and foremost to get levels so he can start ganking ASAP. I'm guessing BlueTrin's problem is actually getting too close to Lina early on and getting harassed out of lane because of her cheap nukes and the fact that he is a slow melee hero and she's ranged. If you just stay out of her attack range, get EXP, and grab runes when you can, your team contribution at that point is determined on how well you or the Lina perform in your roles (support/gank/roamers).
    – Kotsu
    Commented Apr 20, 2013 at 9:53
  • yea, and late game pudge should absolutely wreck lina due to his magic resistance
    – l I
    Commented Apr 20, 2013 at 13:07
  • yea I had no problems at all after laning, pudge is a monster at ganking after you get your early levels.
    – BlueTrin
    Commented Apr 20, 2013 at 17:10

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