So, after a small revolt, I imprisoned a few of my vassals. This made an excellent opportunity to restructure my realm. Those who had a different culture had their lands repossessed immediately. I do however have two remaining prisoners, whom I don't know what to do with.

One is a duke and double count. I could strip him of his primary title for free but not the counties. I'll let him rot until he dies, methinks.

The last one is a mere count. I was thinking of removing his title, but then I started thinking ... "Well, at least I know where I have my dear vassal"

While he is imprisoned, he can't rebel or plot against me. So that's neat! But what are the down sides of keeping your vassals locked up? Will his heir come back to haunt me?

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His close relations will have a significant negative opinion penalty of you, so if his heir is his child or another close relation, yes, imprisoning them has already poisoned your relationship with his heir. The "imprisoned my parent/close relation/child" penalty will expire eventually after releasing a prisoner, but it won't expire while you have them captive and they still live.

Your vassals are also unable to do useful things as your delegate within the realm: they can't declare wars, or pacify their vassals as effectively (due to the diplomacy penalty from being in prison). That may or may not matter to you, or may actually be an advantage politically, depending on the exact state of affairs in your realm.

Personally, I tend to strip such counts of their title, assuming that won't cause political trouble with their relatives. A county title I have free to gift to someone loyal is much more valuable than having a vassal where I can keep an eye on them.

  • It does make sense that a person would have a "imprisoned my close relative" opinion penalty – however, I don't see that in my game. Do they forget about it, only to suddenly remember it, when they themselves become a ruler?
    – Nix
    Aug 9, 2013 at 22:45
  • @Nix Hm, that might only apply if you imprisoned them without cause. I distinctly remember it showing up when I tyrannically imprisoned a disloyal duke, but I can't say the same for righteous imprisonments. Aug 10, 2013 at 1:05
  • Might also be mods
    – Affine
    Aug 10, 2013 at 3:10
  • @Affine Weren't mods. Aug 10, 2013 at 7:22
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    Good answer. Also, @Nix, you can often plot for revokation against counts with two counties. If you have high intrigue and are deceitful, ambitious and so, it might be worthwhile taking the duke's title away and seeing if you can plot against him (I don't know if this is possible while the guy is in jail). If you succeed you can then place a new count and make him a duke. At that point the former duke's opinion of you no longer matters.
    – SMeznaric
    Aug 10, 2013 at 10:02

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