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Certain heists such as Watchdogs and Rats Day 3 have two different vehicles that are generally available at the same time. One is indicated to the player as a loot securing vehicle, and the other is indicated to the player as an escape vehicle.

Can loot be secured by taking it with you to the escape vehicle, even though the game doesn't offer a "loot secured" text alert?

I see three scenarios that can be tested:

  1. Loot is secured in the dedicated loot vehicle

  2. Loot is on the ground in the escape area

  3. Loot is on a player's back who is in the escape area

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  • I believe any bags you are carrying whilst you escape are counted, but I'm not 100% certain. Good question.
    – Neon1024
    Commented Aug 30, 2013 at 15:47
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    I'm going to try this soon unless someone answers it before I do.
    – Once Upon a Dev
    Commented Aug 30, 2013 at 15:50
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    In watchdogs taking the 9th bag onto the helicopter rather than waiting for the boat to come a 3rd time has odd effects. In the score screen Bain will say something about you not getting all the coke (which he won't say if you put the 9th bag in the boat) but the summary tab will reward you for 9 bags as if you had successfully secured the last one. It may be that it does count bags you escape with but that's not intended behavior, in which case I imagine it will be patched eventually.
    – Oblivious Sage
    Commented Aug 30, 2013 at 18:57
  • Question along the same lines. What if you get to the escape van with a loot bag but don't toss it in the van. Do you still get the credit?
    – Son of a Sailor
    Commented Aug 30, 2013 at 20:46

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Further testing indicates that only Rats Day 3 allows you to skip the loot vehicle by carrying the bags. Dropping the bags on the escape area does not count.

We tested this on Rats Day 3 by taking the cash bags to the escape chopper rather than loot chopper and they did count towards our reward for the mission (listed as bag loot items). Only the bags carried by players were counted. I haven't tested on other missions.

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    It doesn't count on Watchdogs Day 2 i've always done 8 bags in the boat and 1 bag along. And he still sais we didn't bring all the coke. So i'm pretty sure it doesn't count there.
    – Lyrion
    Commented Sep 2, 2013 at 6:33
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    @Lyrion The audio clip is incorrect. The summary correctly counts the bag loot carried out of Watchdogs day 2.
    – Iron Savior
    Commented Sep 4, 2013 at 8:25
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    @kalina Absolutely false. I have tested this.
    – Iron Savior
    Commented Oct 21, 2013 at 15:34
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    As have I, what platform and patch have you tested on?
    – kalina
    Commented Oct 21, 2013 at 15:34
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    You can also escape on mallcrashers while carrying bags.
    – Marco Geertsma
    Commented Apr 24, 2014 at 11:43
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Yes, a loot bag that is carried by a player in the escape area counts toward the total cash reward in all heists. But it does not count toward XP rewards nor achievements. Unsecured loot that is on the ground in the escape area does not count.

If you carry a bag while escaping, you will get the full amount of money for it. Bain's commentary afterwards will not reflect this. However, merely throwing bags into the escape zone on the other hand (without any "loot secured" message) does not count.

XP rewards and achievements that require players to secure a certain amount of loot do not count bags carried into the escape. Essentially, if you worry about gaining experience or achievements, carrying bags into the escape has some severe disadvantages. If you care about money only, carrying bags directly may often save a second or two depending on the circumstances.

- Carrying Bags, Payday 2 - The Long Guide

Another answer here states that carried loot bags don't count in Watchdogs - Day 2, but multiple players have tested and confirmed that bags carried by the players do count towards the total in Watchdogs - Day 2 (even if Bain's dialogue says otherwise):

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The behaviour of this mechanic is very inconsistent. As rightfully pointed out by 3ventic, bags you're carrying on day 3 of Rats will count towards your payday. However, this is not the case with the cocaine on day 2 of Watchdogs.

After a significant amount of testing though I've come to the conclusion that basically, the behaviour seems to be as follows:

  • if it's yours and you escape with it, you keep it,
  • if it's not and you escape with it, it counts as a failure and that bag isn't counted.

This means that in the instance of Rats, the money you escape with counts because it's now your money. In the instance of Watchdogs, escaping by carrying coke will not count as it's Hector's coke - not yours. By exiting the level with the coke, Hector never receives it and you're not credited with escaping with it.

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    This makes sense, since I know for a fact that the Mallcrashers bags also count when escaped via the helicopter.
    – Unionhawk ♦
    Commented Oct 21, 2013 at 5:07
  • I had completely forgot about mallcrashers - but yeah, the bags from mallcrashers are yours and thus count when you escape with them
    – kalina
    Commented Oct 21, 2013 at 8:37
  • @Unionhawk I don't think there is a loot vehicle in mallcrashers to begin with, so it makes sense to escape with them.
    – Once Upon a Dev
    Commented Oct 21, 2013 at 15:42
  • @3ventic You can take them to the van and secure them that way as well.
    – Unionhawk ♦
    Commented Oct 21, 2013 at 15:43
  • @Unionhawk doesn't the van leave when alarm goes off?
    – Once Upon a Dev
    Commented Oct 21, 2013 at 15:54

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