With all the armor and health and health-regeneration, what's the strategy that I should use to win team fights in the end game?
The tanks can go without trouble and kill my ap, adc and any other threats to their damage-dealers. And they can protect their own while we can't do the same, since they are 2~3 doing the "body-guard" job.
PS: Early game is easy, the problem is in the mid/end game.
I play solo queue in silver. Some games I lose because an immature kid gets upset by whatever and starts trolling. Some games I lose because my teammates don't have a clue how to play in the teamfight phase. Some games I lose because me or my teammates loose the laning phase (which is ok, you can't win every game). Some games I lose because we are being outplayed and outsmarted, which actually makes the game enjoyable (unless we are crushed beyond hope) and ends up with me respecting the opposite team.
But what really leaves me thinking and frustrated is when I have a good/decent team, we get out of the laning phase ahead, and lose late game because we (and by inclusion — me) don't know how to deal with their team comp. Since season 4 start, it seems to me that team comps with double tanks + tank support (which is an effective 3'rd tank late game in this season) are extremely strong and very, very effective late game. To me it looks that they are actually unbeatable. So I would like to know how to deal with it. As stated I consider the case where I have decent teammates, who don't do stupid things like roaming alone in the fog of war, engaging on tanks or chasing halfway across the map after a support kill. And we position (I think correctly) when grouped, with a front line, a middle line and a back line. And we have some level of communication and coordination (as much as it is possible in solo queue).
They usually hard engage with the front line on one of our carry, going behind our front line. And since their front line is so strong, this means dead carry, or at least out of fight carry. After that it is usually clean up.
Now before you start theorizing and preaching about which team comps counters which team comps, remember this is solo queue silver, and everybody just plays what they know/want and at the very best they counter their lane. And the best team comp planification I can hope for is when we are at the last two picks and someone (usually me) says 'we need a tank'. So what I need to know is how can I make the best of it while stuck in a random team comp.
I would like general tips on how to handle this kind of situation, but I understand that it depends on particular situations, so here it is the most recent game I had:
- Rene, Jarvan, Leona — tanks, initiators
- Cait, Malzahar — carries
- Garen — tank
- Kha — assassin
- Lucian, Lux — carries
- Morgana — support
We were all decent and not doing stupid things, and everybody was doing what they were supposed to do on a general way (but apparently not for this particular tem comp).
We got ahead out of the laning phase. Mid game we still won fights, some fights they won. We were still ahead of them, we even got 3 aces, but we were too weak afterwards to take any important objective (as the respawn timers weren't that long yet). Going into late game, we still won a few fights, but it was clear by now that we were going to lose. We didn't have a solution for their 3 tanks-initiators. Late game they won fights decisively and took big objectives afterwards (respawn timers were now long enough).
This was one game, but I had a lot of similar games where we started ahead but lost EVERY TIME late game because we couldn't deal with their tanks.
Thanks to the ones that read this quite long post.