Yesterday, I placed a Zygarde on the GTS, and I asked in return for a Ho-oh. To my surprise today, I got the Ho-oh, it was shiny, and it had 5ivs! (all in the good places!)

I checked to see the Ho-oh's summary, and it said

Travelled from time and Space from Johto to get to Kalos

What does this mean? is my Ho-oh (gulp) ..not legit?

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    If it was cheated, it would probably have perfect IVs all over. Shiny+5IVs looks like RNG, which is totally legit (Or a very good cheat, which can't be distinguished).
    – scenia
    Apr 14, 2014 at 6:37
  • What's RNG? How do you do it in XY?
    – Malky.Kid
    Apr 15, 2014 at 7:57
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    RNG is short for Random Number Generator and refers to methods used to trick/abuse the limited predictability of the games' random number generation system in order to generate Pokémon with specific stats and characteristics. To my knowledge, the Gen 6 RNG has not yet been figured out and there is little incentive to do so because the breeding system has become so easy that it's arguably as easy to breed a perfect shiny normally as it is to RNG it. The legendaries have also been made easier to reset for good stats (they have at least 3 IVs at 31), and there are very few in the first place.
    – scenia
    Apr 15, 2014 at 8:22
  • This particular Ho-Oh was definitely cheated. But it shouldn't matter much.
    – user79446
    Dec 14, 2015 at 10:25
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    @HugoZink How can you tell, sir?
    – Malky.Kid
    Dec 14, 2015 at 10:31

2 Answers 2


The only way to figure out is through a legitimacy checker, which can be found on the internet, but usually involves cheating to access the coding to find out.

But, for the Time and Space part, all that means is that the Pokemon was from a previous game. Probably from Heart Gold or Soul Silver via means of Poke Transfer and Poke Bank.

As long as it does not have illegal stats, abilities, types, or moves, you can use it in online competition.

EDIT: Pokemon that have traveled across space and time can be used in non-ranked online battles, but to be used on the ranked side of the battles, they need to have been caught/bred in the 6th generation games.

  • Legit or not, can I challenge battles with other players?
    – Malky.Kid
    Apr 14, 2014 at 1:04
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    @Malky.Kid You should be able to, yes
    – TerryA
    Apr 14, 2014 at 1:29
  • Wait a second.. How can you get pokemon from Heartgold / Soulsilver into X & Y?
    – Mkalafut
    Apr 14, 2014 at 16:01
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    @Mkalafut gen 4 can move to gen 5 via Poketransfer, and gen 5 pokemon can be moved into Pokemonbank with Pokemon Transporter, anything in the bank can be moved into gen 6. Illegitimate pokemon are supposed to be prevented from entering Pokemon Transporter but it's possible they've been hacked directly rather than imported from hacked gen 4
    – Ben Brocka
    Apr 14, 2014 at 16:42
  • @PrinnyBrocka Awesome, thanks. I just stumbled on to gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/12817/… and it had exactly what I was looking for.
    – Mkalafut
    Apr 14, 2014 at 17:45

If it travelled through Pokémon Bank (ie. came from Johto in this case) then it has already been through Nintendo's hack checks. With that in mind, it's either legit or good enough of a hack to not be detected.

That said, one of my friends has a Bug Bite Scizor with a Kalos-native symbol on its Summary, and another friend is probably personally responsible for the delay in Bank's release due to pointing out some major flaws in the hack checking system!

Anyway, point is, just because it's shiny and has high IVs does not mean it's hacked - it just means the person who obtained it has no life :p Okay, that was mean...

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