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Example:

Player 1 has a Mirror Entity in play (Secret: When your opponent plays a minion, summon a copy of it). He also has 3 minions on the board.

Player 2 starts his turn with no minions and plays a Mind Control Tech (Battlecry: If your opponent has 4 or more minions, take control of one at random).

What happens? Extra credit: what happens if Player 2 started with 3 minions before playing his Mind Control Tech?

Just trying to wrap my head around the mechanics. Thanks.

Edit: this is different from the How is effect precedence determined link because the accepted answer on that question is not relevant to Secrets and does not go into detail on their usage.

In that answer, quote: "According to Lead Designer Eric Dodds, events such as Deathrattles that are triggered simultaneously will occur in the order in which the related cards were played.".

Secrets don't enter the stack when they were played, but rather as they are triggered which is a subtle but important point to this question (and something I learned through the accepted answer on here and some of the commentary from Waterseas).

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  • The extra question is easy, Mirror Entity created minions don't activate their Battle Cry at all. So nothing happens anyway.
    – Ral Zarek
    May 21, 2014 at 19:11
  • Rereading the question, I feel like it might just be due to the inability to create a short specific question title.
    – Waterseas
    May 21, 2014 at 19:21
  • @Waterseas - yeah, also maybe the extra credit should've been separate. My confusion there was because the card wording is "summon a copy of it" instead of "put a copy of it into play", so I didn't know if the battlecry occurred or not.
    – spudone
    May 21, 2014 at 19:24
  • @spudone Nah, the extra credit is perfectly fine. Just thinking maybe the question title should be reworded to 'Order of Mirror Entity and Mind Control Tech Effect Resolutions' or something more specific. Would help people who have had this specific question before find this as well.
    – Waterseas
    May 21, 2014 at 19:27
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    @Frank: I don't know who your comment was directed at but the condescending tone isn't helpful.
    – spudone
    May 27, 2014 at 23:30

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It goes like explained this answer, using a stack to decide which goes first.

P2 plays Mind Control Tech, it goes on the stack.

P1 Mirror Entity triggers, it goes on the stack.

nothing else happens (no more secrets on P1 side) after so the things on the stack are "popped" out.

P1 Mirror Entity resolves first, and since Mirror Entity created minions don't activate their Battle Cry as Rai Zarek commented, even with 8 minions on P2 side, P1 won't get any.

P2 Mind Control Tech resolves, the minion is put into play, its battlecry effect goes on the stack and happens right away as nothing happens after the minion gets on the field, and take control of one of the 4 minions of P1.

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  • I had viewed that other answer and thought it was specific to "start of turn" effects. Thanks for the clarification.
    – spudone
    May 21, 2014 at 19:26
  • Jonathan, as much as I appreciate the linking to my answers, I feel like the first one about order of turn entry isn't actually relevant to your excellent answer. Might just want to go ahead and remove it.
    – Waterseas
    May 21, 2014 at 19:30
  • @waterseas Indeed, after reading entirely the answer, it doesn't help or clarify my answer or help on the question. Thanks.
    – Jonathan Drapeau
    May 21, 2014 at 19:31
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    Also, "putting them on the stack based on the order the cards entered the battlefield" is a little misleading with Secrets, as they're not pushed onto the stack until they get triggered, from what I'm reading.
    – spudone
    May 21, 2014 at 19:32
  • @Spudone that's part of why I suggested it, order of entry isn't actually relevant in regards to a secret versus something else, only in regards to multiple secrets.
    – Waterseas
    May 21, 2014 at 19:33

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