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Several of my bishops are paying taxes to the Kaiser. Not only are they not paying the pope (although the pope is vassal to the Kaiser), their opinion of the Kaiser is less than that of me. One bishop has a 100 opinion of me and 32 for the Kaiser.

In the religion tab it shows a red hat and the opinion of the Kaiser. I thought maybe they're paying the Kaiser directly based on their opinion of the pope, which is 100 and the pope wins ties, but I don't know how to check their opinion of the pope since it's showing the Kaiser.

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    Make your own papacy. With blackjack. And hookers. – Studoku Aug 14 '14 at 0:36
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It sounds like the Kaiser has created an antipope. That means, that the bishops in the realm will pay taxes to the antipope instead of the old pope, and he will in turn give those taxes over to whoever appointed him. If the bishops don't like the new antipope, I assume they would continue paying taxes to their most direct liege (e.g. you).

There is a different question here on Arqade dealing with how to check the opinion between to NPCs. Perhaps that will help you figure out what's going on.

  • Nix, that sounds plausible, there's an antipope in an HRE county, he's actually imprisoned. However, I used the NPC opinion trick (thanks!) to determine that my vassal bishops also have a lower opinion of this antipope than me. Perhaps the fact that the antipope is imprisoned is causing the weirdness somehow. – Keith Aug 14 '14 at 14:59
  • Should be any bishop, not just in realm. Also, I believe they'll pay out to whichever of the three they like best - pope vs antipope vs direct liege. I actually suspect that it's (pope) vs (antipope or antipope liege) vs (direct liege) based on some of my experiences with setting up an antipope. – Affine Aug 14 '14 at 14:59
  • @Keith Can you put up some screenshots or a save? – Affine Aug 14 '14 at 15:00
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In the religion tab, hover over the button that creates an anti-pope. A popup will write something like:

He likes the Pope (100) more than us (100).

The numbers in brackets are the opinions you seek.

(Why the religion tab shows the opinion of the pope's liege is beyond me, as it is the opinion of the pope that matters in this case)

  • Yep that does the trick. If they're paying the Kaiser directly, it makes sense to show that, but it's confusing for the opinions! – Keith Aug 18 '14 at 14:40
  • Part of the reason it shows the liege, is probably because it is an anti-pope. However, I agree that it sounds odd. I would believe it should show the opinion for the anti-pope, even if the money ultimately ends up with the emperor. – Nix Aug 21 '14 at 18:29

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