I'm Emperor of Alba and besides the Kingdom of Eire I control the Kingdom of Wales(1). One of its Dukes is the Grand-Mayor of Gwynedd, which has built a lot of trade posts and stuff over the years.

The game doesn't allow me to grant him the kingdom title, saying its type is wrong. But as far as I understood, there could have been republics with a rank higher than duke, weren't it?

I could also revoke his title since he was a rebel, but I fear that doing so would destroy his families and trade posts, even if my intention would be to grant it to another mayor, right?

(1) actually Brythoniaid or Bhretain Bheag, can't remember, doesn't matter

  • As far as I know Serene Doge of Venice is the only Kingdom-level Republic title and it cannot be a feudal lord's vassal. Commented Jan 29, 2015 at 16:01

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As Affine has stated in his answer, you cannot grant kingdom titles to those who are already theocracies or republics. You can grant a kingdom to a lord mayor to make him a kingdom-level republic, and the republic can and will create kingdom titles if they meet the requirements. You just can't grant a kingdom to someone who is already a republic.

I don't know why you would want to grant a kingdom to a merchant republic. It won't help them at all, and if you grant the other duchy to them then they will create the kingdom if they can.

As Affine also said, only 10% of your realm's total holdings can be held by republics and theocracies, so it is best to have many small republics spread out so they don't fight over trade posts and you can rake in that sweet sweet tax.

Oh, and yes revoking their only duchy will destroy the entire republic.

  • But tax counts only from direct vassals. If they are Duke level republic and you are an Emperor and there is a king between, then the tax from the republic would go to the king first as his income, then you'd get a cut of the king's income. If the republic is Kingdom level, you'd get the tax directly, which translates into more income. Commented Jul 29, 2016 at 7:42

You can't grant kingdoms to theocracies or merchant republics.

There's nothing mechanics wise stopping them from creating a kingdom if they meet the requirements though, and I don't believe there's any AI-block on that either.

Only problem there is giving them the number of counties needed (since you cannot give them more land if you've already reached the 10% limit).

Venice is a special case that starts as a kingdom. The Hansa is another kingdom merchant republic - that one is founded by event.

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