Gains charges upon moving or casting. At 100 charges, the next spell hit expends all charges to deal 100 (+0.15 ability power) bonus magic damage to up to 4 targets on hit. Applies spell Effects (e.g., Spell Vamp, Rylai's, etc).

How does this behave with Karthus ultimate?

  • Luden's echo is simpley awesome :D Mar 13, 2015 at 7:27
  • I used it on vlad yesterday and I went ham :D Mar 13, 2015 at 9:32

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From a Reddit post explaining the behavior between Luden's Echo and Karthus Ult:

  • Luden's Echo cannot bounce more than once.
  • Luden's Echo prioritises the first pick (press tab it's the first champion on red team)
  • Luden's Echo hits invisible targets
  • Luden's Echo when hitting minions also hits invisible targets.
  • Luden's Echo does not proc on Karthus E or W.
  • Karthus E does not add "20" to the Luden's Echo Counter.

This is the TL;DR, did not want to post the entire article here. If you want to give it a read, you can check it out here: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2yskwz/ludens_echo_karthus_interaction/

  • Luden's Echo does proc on Defile, used it a few times to test it. At the very least, it procs on its activation but I'm sure I saw it proc after too. That said, I don't feel I'll keep that item in my normal Karth's build, doesn't add enough damage to be worth it on Karth Mar 18, 2015 at 17:21
  • @JonathanDrapeau I think Karth has great wave clear and Luden's Echo is mostly used for mages with low wave clear. I agree with you, I do not recommend building this item on Karth.
    – FoxMcCloud
    Mar 18, 2015 at 18:50
  • The money needed for it and what it brings as wave clearing power is not enough to justify the gold IMO. It won't one shot a range minion, it barely puts it at half health (iirc). Mar 18, 2015 at 19:12

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