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One of the great reasons I love Town of Salem (besides the Rap song by Minx/Dave) is how easy it is to be absolutely certain beyond any doubt that you know with great certainty who is a where role is typically Serial Killer or Godfather, sometimes Jester or Executioner, maybe Witch.

I have played for a long time, and every-time a person gives absolutely perfect evidence for what they know, I can easily refute them using game mechanics.

An example, Once I was serial killer, 2 people visited me, 1 was prostitute and I don't recall the other. In a strange twist the other person whose role I forget, became targeted as the Serial Killer and was lynched. I survived to win the round.

This made me wonder, every rules or mechanic seems to be designed to prove a person is A but really only proves they are |A| by which is meant alignment can't be determined.

Is there any truth to this? Is it at all possible to prove concretely what a persons role is. Noting, in over 2k games I've played, I've never seen it happen with the exception of pure luck.

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New Town of Salem Roles! :D

The existing answer gives quite a bit of information already. There have been some new roles so here are a few more specifications:

The Consigliere (Mafia Support) can retrieve the exact role of a player. However, if that person has been doused by an Arsonist, they will appear as an Arsonist as well. If the player has been hexed by a Hex Master, they will appear as a Hex Master as well.

The Sheriff can also tell if someone is part of the Coven (which is a new addition). The Investigator sees a list of possible roles of the player, and if they were framed, they will appear as Framer, Vampire, Jester, or Hex Master.

The Mayor can reveal themselves during the day which is absolute proof that the player is a Mayor.

The Witch and the Coven Leader will see the exact role of the person they choose to control that night.

There are a few ways to find the role of a person. If a Jailor jails a player and is not visited by any players, then dies to a Serial Killer or a Werewolf (on a full moon night), then the jailed player is obviously that role. If a Jailor tries to execute a player or only one player voted guilty for a Jester but they didn't die, then they have to be Pestilence, the only player with an Invincible defense.

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  • So still no way to know for certain as every scenario has a "unless..."
    – ydobonebi
    Nov 27, 2017 at 19:03
  • @ydobonebi Yeah. Any way to determine a player's role for sure (other than hanging them or stabbing them at night and hoping they don't get Janitored) would be quite overpowered. I think Witch and Coven Leader get the exact role regardless of any influences, if I remember correctly. Nov 27, 2017 at 19:08
  • So I guess the correct answer is then to hang them. Seems appropriate considering the central theme of the game.
    – ydobonebi
    Nov 27, 2017 at 19:10
  • @ydobonebi sure :P beware the jester though :D Nov 27, 2017 at 22:35
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The Consigliere is the only role that can find out for sure what another player's role is. Unfortunately for the town, the Consigliere works for the Mafia.

The Sheriff can tell for sure if a player is a Serial Killer or if they're a member of the Mafia (except the Godfather). If a player is being framed, they will appear as suspicious, just like a Mafia member.

The Investigator can tell a small selection of roles that a player might be. If a player is being framed, they will appear to be a Framer or Forger.

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  • Sheriff can have false positives except serial killer, that's one down. Investigator has the problem i mentioned about alignment. Having a weapon, for example, could be town or mob. Never played consig, I'll have to check it.
    – ydobonebi
    Aug 6, 2015 at 17:01
  • @ydobonebi Consigliere always tells you the role. However... Witch can change your target and Transporter can switch your target with a different person (I think you're informed about this).
    – Powerlord
    Aug 6, 2015 at 17:23
  • Incidentally, Consigliere is one of the most powerful roles in the game. Unless you're playing All Any, Consigliere is relatively rare. This is different from Sheriff or Investigator which have 100% chance of getting both in Classic and 50% chance of getting at least one of them in Ranked (2/4 Investigative roles)... ignoring the Any role, which has a 1 / 27 or so chance of getting it.
    – Powerlord
    Aug 6, 2015 at 17:26

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