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I've already finished the Talos Principle (at least up to the second ending), but my friend hasn't, so we've been comparing notes. I remember in my play through that I was missing a yellow sigil for the platform, and that Elohim eventually reset a beginner yellow puzzle so I could complete it again, thus gaining the final sigil. Yet my friend says that this never happened to him. What could have triggered this for me, but not for my friend? And is there some extra yellow puzzle that my friend has done and I haven't or something? What accounts for the extra yellow piece?

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To clarify, Elohim explicitly stated something along the lines of "I'm going to reaffirm your faith in me, so let me reset this puzzle for you so you can do it again." I wasn't in a puzzle when he said this, and it wasn't the usual why-not-take-a-break-from-this-puzzle thing that he does. Additionally, there was a QR code message from Sheep stating that he was in the same predicament.

Has anyone experienced this sort of thing besides me? I played it a while ago, but still, I have a really vivid memory of this. I'm very hesitant to think this is just something I imagined.

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Oh, and it would be great if anyone who has had this experience themselves comments about it, so I know I'm not crazy.

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    I don't recall any reseting in my playthrough. – klm123 Aug 11 '15 at 8:45
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    The message from Sheep is: "I don't have enough yellow sigils for the device I need! This is crazy!\n -- Sheep v69.1.0702". The specific voiceover you mention though... I can't find it anywhere in the game files. Not even a script that even mentions this. There are exactly enough yellow sigils to unlock everything. – Sumurai8 Jun 15 '16 at 14:47
  • I finished all puzzles in A, B and C, all are crossed out, I finished all the messenger islands and all grey sigils islands, except the one in B because I'm missing two yellow sigils! I've seen the QR by Sheep but haven't heard El's message. This is really infuriating. There's no point going to the tower for me... – Eusebius Jan 26 '19 at 19:44
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The mentioned QR-code is indeed in the game as:

I don't have enough yellow sigils for the device I need! This is crazy!
-- Sheep v69.1.0702

After digging through the game file, I cannot find the voiceover file that you mentioned. I also can't find any mention of this in the script files, but not everything seems to be in readable lua files. What I do know is that there is no way to "finish" a level without picking up the sigil. Solving the puzzle and then exiting without picking up the sigil will just be recorded as a "puzzle exit" event, which means that the sigil will be there even after reloading the world.

There are 9 yellow sigils in levels A-1 to A-4, and 14 yellow sigils in levels B-1 to B-7. That makes a total of 23 sigils.

There are exactly 23 sigils needed to unlock all items as shown in the following sigil puzzle solutions. You can access all previous puzzles. There is even a way to get back in the tutorial area if you are quick about it.

yellow puzzle solutions
(source: https://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/805905-the-talos-principle/faqs/70787?page=3)


While thinking about this there might be one other problem: You unlocked the items in the "wrong" order, preventing you from completing the other yellow puzzles. The yellow puzzles you could not complete should however not be crossed out.

  • A1: No requirements for 2 sigils
  • A2: No requirements for 1 sigil
  • A3: No requirements for 2 sigils
  • A4: Connector for 4 sigils
  • B1: Connector for 3 sigils, Hex for 2 sigils
  • B2: Fan + hex for 1 sigil, Connector for 1 sigil, Fan + hex + connector for 1 sigil
  • B3: Fan + hex for 1 sigil, Fan + hex + connector for 1 sigil
  • B6: Connector for 2 sigils
  • B7: Connector for 1 sigil, Hex for 1 sigil

You get 5 sigils for free. If you spend 3 sigils on the connector, do all 10 sigil puzzles with the connector, then "buy" the fan and the recorder, you end up with 2 sigils and no more yellow puzzles you can complete. I am not sure if this is possible, because I am not sure if you can access World B without access to the hexahedron. Still, if there is a way to trigger this message, then this is the most likely theory how to do it. Another way might be by buying the platform before the fan, locking you out of 4 puzzles. Again, I am not sure if you can access World C without buying the fan.

Incomplete finite state machine

(Made with: http://madebyevan.com/fsm/)

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In all likelihood, you finished an early puzzle but never collected the sigil. Collecting the sigil is what counts as solving the puzzle. I've never seen a puzzle reset automatically, but I imagine you solved it once, left without the sigil, came back, and the puzzle was unsolvable. The game probably gave you a reasonable amount of time to reset manually, but it presumably decided you weren't going to do that.

  • This seems likely. There are no extra pieces or missing pieces and Elohim does occasionally sarcastically suggest resetting puzzles... – Chris Aug 11 '15 at 19:41
  • @Chris: I've not heard Elohim say anything sarcastic, precisely, though I have heard him suggest I take a break from a given puzzle for a while. Are you sure you're not playing with the Serious Sam DLC? – Kevin Aug 11 '15 at 20:17
  • OK. When I say sarcastic I really just mean him telling me to reset a puzzle while I am half way through solving it with no reason to reset (ie not stuck). The voice isn't sarcastic, its just the timing makes it feel so. :) – Chris Aug 11 '15 at 21:39
  • But the weird thing is, I found a QR code from Sheep saying that he was missing a sigil as well. Maybe Elohim was playing tricks on me and I really hadn't finished that puzzle or something, but the whole Sheep things makes me more doubtful of that. But then again, who knows what to think in a game with a plot centered around philosophical science fiction. I just want to know if it happened to anyone else as well. – lorentzfactor Aug 12 '15 at 0:06
  • Oh, and the puzzle wasn't unsolvable. I just couldn't find another (yellow) puzzle to solve. They were all crossed out. – lorentzfactor Aug 12 '15 at 0:12
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If you are referring to the yellow sigils that open the "Star Bonus Map" areas, some are well hidden. There is one underneath the water in A3 you have to press the clock buttons XX and VII to drain the water and open the secret area. There is on atop the Obelisk in world B5 To get this one you need to direct the blue beam to the receiver on the obelisk, and break the fan out of one of the other puzzles to fly up and get it. There is one in the Messenger (break the wooden door with the axe) in The C hub area. It is hidden behind some rocks after you cross the invisible bridge between the two statue lovers. There is one in the outlying building by the tower, but you have to break the wooden barrier with the axe to expose the blue transmitter, and break out two connectors from Floor 1 to connect the blue receiver to open the gate. There is one that you get to by jumping out the window in Tower Floor 5 and walking out on the beam by the pigeons. You drop straight down through a hole in the roof to get the final star. These are the best hidden star (yellow sigils) in the game. Good Luck.

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