I was playing Pokémon Y, freshly healed from a Pokémon center so I know had full PP on all my of Pokémon. I ran into a trainer battle, my leading Pokémon was Gabite, I don't remember which Pokémon the trainer used by the trainer's first move was Torment and I used the move Dragon Claw.

His Pokémon was knocked out on the first hit, so he sends his second Pokémon out. Wanting to give my Gabite more experience, I left him. He got the first move again and this time used Encore. So when I went to fight I get the message, "Gabite is out of usable moves" and then proceeded to use Struggle.

Is this a bug in the game to be able to use torment then encore a Pokémon like that? Or is it just a really evil way to make the other trainer's Pokémon hurt itself? Either way, I learned a new set of moves that I might run on a Pokémon.

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    From my experience with games, I don't think this is a bug. In fact, I think this is very clever. – Nolonar Oct 19 '15 at 16:19
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    If you think Encore + Torment is evil, try Encore + Disable! – Pyritie Dec 16 '15 at 9:44
  • @Pyritie I have a link in my answer listing which pokemon can use that combo :) – Wondercricket Dec 17 '15 at 18:15
  • @Wondercricket: It's best paired with shadow tag, so they can't even switch out. Mega gengar (shadow tag and disable) and whimsicott (prankster disable) do this best. – Pyritie Dec 19 '15 at 23:35

This is a valid strategy which forces the Pokemon to use struggle every other turn.

As answered on Pokemon Database Torment & Encore, it goes to say:

Encore+Torment would simply make the pokemon struggle every alternate turn, because Torment says they can't use the same move twice in a row, while Encore prevents them from using a different move, so they have to use Struggle.

If you wish to use this strategy yourself, Pokemon Database contains a list of Pokemon that are able to learn both Torment/Disable and Encore

Torment & Encore

  1. Abra
  2. Kadabra
  3. Alakazam
  4. Mr. Mime
  5. Ralts
  6. Kirlia
  7. Gardevoir
  8. Chimchar
  9. Monferno
  10. Infernape
  11. Mime Jr.
  12. Chatot
  13. Gallade
  14. Purrloin
  15. Liepard
  16. Darmanitan
  17. Hawlucha

Disable & Encore

  1. Psyduck
  2. Golduck
  3. Kadabra
  4. Alakazam
  5. Seel
  6. Dewgong
  7. Ralts
  8. Kirlia
  9. Gardevoir
  10. Spinda
  11. Gallade
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    One of my favourite tricks is to kill a Prankster by hitting it with Encore/Taunt. It can be quite effective on Shedinja too. – Niet the Dark Absol Oct 20 '15 at 12:51

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