I am playing as Ayutthaya and have selected Kutai as one of my rivals. However, I would like to replace them by Malacca (who used to be my ally) in order to get cheaper conquest of their provinces in terms of diplomatic power.

However, it seems that removing a rival comes with a steep cost of 100 diplomatic power which I would like to avoid paying. Since Kutai is quite weak, I think they might be close to being eclipsed. What are the conditions a rival must satisfy to be eclipsed, and similarly what are the conditions a nation must satisfy to qualify as a valid rival?

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Currently the specific conditions for being eligible or being eclipsed from rivalry are unknown to public. You can see that corresponding wiki article is very short: http://www.eu4wiki.com/Diplomacy#Select_rival

Wiz (lead designer of EU4) promised that in the upcoming updates the rivalry system is going to receive many improvements, most of them aiming to make the system more clear, understandable, predictable and stable (no repeated flipping back and forth between eligible-eclipsed)

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    I do hope so. It is annoying that you spend so many years building relationships with a country, form marriage alliances, answer to each others call but then suddenly that country with 200 opinion of you declares you a rival.
    – NSNoob
    Feb 3, 2016 at 11:49
  • @NSNoob this is already fixed in patch 1.15 which arrived some days ago. If you have more than 80 trust with the country, it will never ever set you as a rival. So spend some favors for trust and don't dishonor CtAs.
    – Alien-47
    Feb 3, 2016 at 12:32

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