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In Generation I (Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow), stats are determined by DVs (Diversification Values) which to my knowledge are similar to IVs in later generations, but only go from 1 to 15, with the HP DV determined by the rest of the DVs. What are the exact odds of finding a Pokemon with all of its DVs at the highest value possible? How hard would it be?

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  • Even with everything said in this thread, every single Pokemon in the game can end up with max stats regardless of base stat or IVs using the box trick. Pokemon in Gen 1 never stop gaining EVs, and the box trick can force them apply at level 100.
    – SGR
    Commented Oct 18, 2016 at 14:14

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In generation 1 and 2 the IVs went from 0 to 15 for each stat. And there were only 5 stats - Special was one stat, and would not be separated into Special Attack and Special Defence until Gen3.

However, the IV for HP was determined a little differently:

The HP IV is calculated by taking the least significant bit (the final binary digit) of the Attack, Defense, Speed, and Special IVs, then creating a binary string by placing them in that order. As such, a Pokémon with an odd-number Attack IV has 8 added to its HP IV, an odd-number Defense IV has 4 added, an odd-number Speed IV has 2 added, and an odd-number Special IV has 1 added.

Effectively, as long as Att/Def/Speed/Special were all odd numbered, the HP IV was 15 (max). So only four IVs stats were randomly determined.

The chance of getting a single max-IV stat is 1 in 16. The chance for two perfects IVs is 1 in 256. Three is 1 in 4,096. All four is 1 in 65,536. And if all four stats are at 15, the HP is automatically 15.

So the answer is 1 in 65,536 or if you prefer percentages; roughly 0.001526% of Pokemon caught in generation 1 will have perfect IVs


Also keep in mind that in addition to those odds, the earlier generations did not have an NPC to check if IVs were maxed, so unless you're running the game on an emulator that will let you see the stats, you'll need to calculate them with the help of a IV/DV calculator.


As pointed out in the comments, the above is true ONLY if we assume that the random numbers are truly random. However, for a number of reasons, random numbers generated by computer programs are often not 100% random. This remains true for Pokemon RBY.

As it turns out; the way in which the Gen 1 games determine stats for random encounters means that not all 65,536 stat combinations are actually possible, and the number of available combinations depends on the encounter rate of the area (how many steps before an encounter occurs). At best there are about 7168 stat combinations possible (it varies depending on encounter rate), so the best possible stats have approximately a 1 in 7168 (0.014%) chance of being encountered.

And the icing on the cake is; a perfect 15/15/15/15 is not even on the list for possible stat spreads of a pokemon with an encounter rate of 25. In most cases the best you can hope for, it seems, is 15/15/14/15 or 15/15/15/7.

Only non-wild encounters can have max stats

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    Please incorporate this smogon.com/forums/threads/… into your answer, as only non-wild encounters can have max stats.
    – SAJW
    Commented Apr 3, 2020 at 4:10
  • @SAJW done. Oof, that took a bit to wrap my head around and explain - fascinating though. Commented Apr 3, 2020 at 15:38

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