If I attach materia to a piece of Eikonic gear (iLvl 230 Tomestone of Lore gear) then subsequently upgrade that item using a taut gobtwine or dark gobcoat, will the materia be lost?

A quick Google search hasn't turned up the answer, I'm aware that at the time of posting very very few people (if any) will have been able to test this in-game, but I wondered if it was mentioned anywhere in patch notes or such and I've just missed it.

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Yes, you will lose all materia you melded into that piece of gear.

The upgrade is basically turning in the armor piece for a completely different piece of armor, so think of it more like purchasing brand new gear instead of upgrading (if that helps). The game treats the upgraded piece of armor as a completely separate item, which is also why the durability is reset to 100% (instead of carrying over the previous durability). Also any glamour you applied (I.E. glamoured esoteric gear) will be removed, because of the same reason. Upgradable armor is generally not dyeable, but this would apply to dyes as well.

It's best to wait until you get the upgraded pieces of armor before adding materia, so you are not wasting materia on gear you will have for several days.

Edit2: Replaced source with verification from a Community Rep: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/284409-melding-lore-gear?s=7025e052adbd23e69bf38b780191fe56&p=3602391#post3602391

  • Have you got a source/evidence for this? I don't recall any gear that upgraded like this having materia sockets prior to 3.2
    – Aiken
    Mar 7, 2016 at 19:52
  • That's because in 3.2 they added materia slots to the newest Lore and raid armor. They went over that in the live letter, and the game treats it as 2 separate items. This should be fairly obvious, but there is no source/proof besides people verifying it themselves (reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/48pdy5/…). I checked and no one has made a video showing it, but it's how the game treats items. That's why the new item always starts out at 100 durability instead of lower/higher.
    – dakre18
    Mar 7, 2016 at 20:35
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    This was confirmed by a Community Rep on the official forums recently (forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/…).
    – alphaONE
    Mar 8, 2016 at 8:33
  • @alphaONE Thanks for the verification, i'll add that to the answer.
    – dakre18
    Mar 8, 2016 at 19:02

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