Wilkens Reach is an item that gives Grasp of the Dead no cooldown.

If I use Wilken's Reach with the Zuni's 6 piece bonus, and the rune that removes it's mana cost, does it still count as though I am using a mana spender?

  • Spines of Seething Hatred changes Chakram to generate hatred instead of using it, while retaining the bonuses of being a hatred spender. I'd imagine this interaction would work out the same way. Commented May 2, 2016 at 18:06
  • is the website old? it says it removes the cooldown not the mana cost Commented May 2, 2016 at 21:09
  • @RenaissanceProgrammer us.battle.net/d3/en/class/witch-doctor/active/grasp-of-the-dead He is talking about the Unbreakable Grasp rune you can add to skills.
    – Lyrion
    Commented May 3, 2016 at 15:04
  • @RenaissanceProgrammer So sorry, I forgot to add the rune part to the question. Lyrion is correct with his comment.
    – FoxMcCloud
    Commented May 3, 2016 at 15:16
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    @ChaseC thanks guys, stuff on d3 site is often outdated so appreciate the pointers, IMO it would still count as a spender because of the name of the move, I don't have any official evidence or statements but from how i understand the d3 engine works is if a move is a mana spender by default it remains so even if it has augments that change how it works, augments look in the engine for move name, not it's mechanics, it's the original behavior of the spell/move in question that dictates how it is effected by other augments even when some augments work together to form synergies Commented May 3, 2016 at 17:21

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I just tested it out in game and can confirm that grasp of the dead still counts as a mana spender even with the unbreakable grasp rune.

  • I'll believe you ;)
    – FoxMcCloud
    Commented May 5, 2016 at 13:28

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