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This seems to be a question for myth busters. The point is that the claimant that I press will become my vassal. Everywhere I search for an answer people are answering differently.

  • The claimant should not gain a higher title then yours.

To me this means I can vassal an entire kingdom if I am emperor or a county if I'm a duke by just inviting someone with a claim to my court and press his claim in a war. He will become my vassal and my land spreads

  • You should land the claimant a higher title then he can gain

In this case you can only do this as a king (or perhaps petty king?) since as a duke I have to give away my title of duke in order to gain a county as a vassal. Likewise, this seems unwanted if I'm an emperor, as the emperor of 3 kingdoms I would not want to give away 1 kingdom in order to gain a duchy.

Even if I could gain a kingdom I would end up with a vassal holding as much kingdoms as I do making him extremely powerful.

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  • To the first paragraph; you have to land the character else they will leave your court to lead the one they have just seized. I have not heard the second rule of thumb, i tend to give a county I don't like or near the claim. Of course, giving them just the duke or king title means you dont have to cede lands to 'land' them
    – nickson104
    Jun 16, 2016 at 7:32
  • Also... what is the actual question here, it seems more like statements
    – nickson104
    Jun 16, 2016 at 7:32
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    @nickson104 The question is How to "Gain land by pressing claims of others" which is in the title. The problem is that there is no consistent or poor worded answers for this online so I want to know what is true by trying to explain clearly what is being said. Then yes, I give statements about them in case someone can explain it more clear and since I cannot post another question since this is Q&A.
    – Madmenyo
    Jun 16, 2016 at 7:46
  • just wanted to verify it was the titled question as there wasnt one in the body. I agree that there is a tendancy towards situational or even conflicting answers on these issues. I will see if I can verify this, hopefully someone else can though
    – nickson104
    Jun 16, 2016 at 9:42

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There are a few factors here.

First, the claimant must be able to become your vassal after the war. This means the title being claimed must a lower level than your own.

For example, if you are King of France, pressing someone's claim to the Kingdom of England means they cannot be your vassal. If you land them first, they'll just become independent and you'll lose the old land.

Second, one of the following must be true:

  • If the new land is par of your de jure realm, the new holder becomes your vassal automatically.
  • If the claimant is part of your dynasty, they will become your vassal. Marry dynasty members to characters with inheritable claims so their children will be claimants of your dynasty.
  • Landed vassals will remain your vassals if possible. It doesn't matter what land they have- even a single barony is enough. This is the easiest method but involves giving away personal holdings.
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  • Seems clear to me. I wil try getting a petty Kingdom by handing over a county I currently hold on my ironman playtrough first. I'm king, but I understand a petty Kingdom is just a independent duchy/duke.
    – Madmenyo
    Jun 16, 2016 at 12:46
  • @MennoGouw That should work. Jun 16, 2016 at 14:51

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