Normal moves seem generally more damaging than types like electricity. Do "Thunder Shock" at 5 damage have any advantage over "Tackle" at 12?

If the "Thunder Shock" would grant 2x damage against Water type, then would it still be 10 damage versus 12 of "Tackle"?

  • Tackle would do 0 damage to a ghost pokemon as it's a normal type move.
    – Elva
    Commented Jul 11, 2016 at 14:35
  • Same for "Tackel" at 12 and "Quick Attack" at 10. Quick Attack is faster than tackle, so more dps ?
    – Guildias
    Commented Jul 11, 2016 at 14:36

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There's more to a move than just the damage. There's a speed factor that affects the overall DPS. Faster moves also make it easier to dodge.

The moves have three main characteristics to them: Damage, Speed, and Type.

Damage is the number next to the attack, showing how much damage it will do to an enemy. Type is shown below the name and is used when determining type advantages for additional or reduced damage. Speed doesn't not seem to appear anywhere, but it determines how quickly your pokemon can attack.

For speed, I need to do additional testing, but there are some attacks that obvious attack at a faster rate. My Pinsir attacks at blinding speed with Fury Cutter, much faster than my Pidgeot's Steel Wing. But you should note that Fury Cutter does 3 damage while Steel Wing is at 15.

Therefore, it is possible for a lower damage skill to actually out DPS a higher damage skill.

Another important aspect is dodging. If you are using a skill with a long wind-up, your pokemon cannot move for that time. That leaves you vulnerable to attacks. Having a fast move will make it easier for you to react to and dodge attacks. Therefore, even if the DPS is lower, it might be worth it to use the faster, weaker moves.

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    Someone also made a reddit post with some stats that determine which pokemon do the most damage: Here . It seems Water Gun is both fast and powerful, therefore among the most powerful. Commented Jul 17, 2016 at 22:00

From my experience, the moves with lower attack often have higher attack rates, so you'll get more attacks in within a certain amount of time than the more powerful attacks. So, higher numbers don't necessarily mean better moves.

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