I hear that Vaporeon is a really popular Pokemon. But, mine is very weak at attacking:

water gun = 6
water pulse = 35

On the other hand, my Flareon:

ember = 10
heat wave = 80

So, I just got unlucky with the Eevee --> Vaporeon evolution, right?
My choice is to fight with a Vaporeon that has weak fighting skills, or evolve a new one (and hope for the best)?
Powering-up will only change HP and CP? My attacks are stuck at 6 and 35?

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    Damage for each attack is fixed, and Niantic heavily nerfed Vaporeon last patch
    – Dragonrage
    Aug 5, 2016 at 4:29
  • Your Flareon is actually the real disappointment. Ember deals only 9.5 damage per second and contributes 6.7 energy per second. Heat Wave deals 21.1 damage per second but uses 26.3 energy per second. Assuming perfect play, your Flareon's moves actually only deal an average of 11.85 damage per second... Vaporeon's Water Gun, on the other hand, deals 12. The numbers go back slightly in Flareon's favor with base energy charge and his higher attack stat, but Vaporeon should have almost twice as much HP!
    – Eikre
    Aug 7, 2016 at 10:01

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Tl;dr: It's all up to you, but don't judge the strength of the skill by it's Attack power alone. Water Pulse is weak but quick to charge, the best skill (Hydro Pump) requires you to be a better player to use.

On viewing Vaporeon's skills, Water Pulse is weaker on use, but have more uses out of it compared to it's other abilities:

The following information is from here: http://www.pokemongodb.net/2016/05/vaporeon.html

Vaporeon Moves                      
Vaporeon Fast Moves:        Vaporeon Charge Moves:      
Water Gun                      Aqua Tail    Hydro Pump  Water Pulse 

Power:  6             Power:    45          90          35  
Cooldown:   0.5 sec   Cooldown: 2.35 sec    3.8 sec     3.3 sec 
Energy: 7             Energy:   -50         -100        -25 
DPS:    12.0          DPS:      19.1        23.7        10.6    

What's clear here is that while it's two other moves are higher in power, their charge requirements means that you'll need to survive longer before they can be used. The DPS on the bottom shows that it's more efficient to use the stronger attacks, but that's still under the assumption you're able to get that charge going constantly. The real DPS per attack is going to be much lower in real world settings as you (as a player) will miss attack opportunities/get hit often.

In theory, you'll want to get another Eevee and hope that your next Vaporeon get Hydro Pump to get the best move-set possible. for now though, Water Pulse is good since you'll get to practice using Pokemon skills more often.

  • sigh... I guess it's like the birth lottery. You can't control the attributes of your kids. You get what you get and try to make the best of it. If I were to evolve another, it might be just as weak and so a total waste of resources...
    – konishiki
    Aug 5, 2016 at 17:27
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    @konishiki When you start getting interested in upgrading Pokemon, Stardust is actually at a far greater premium than candy, for all but the rarest monsters. Plus, every evolution you invoke grants you 500xp. Evolving further Eevee to look for a Vaporeon you like more is not a waste at all.
    – Eikre
    Aug 7, 2016 at 9:50
  • By "better player", do you mean tap quickly and hold as soon as you fill the energy bar?
    – jrennie
    Aug 12, 2016 at 2:38

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