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I joined a level 10 gym with 60k/50k prestige, which was seemingly a gym fortress. But, in less than 45 minutes, I checked the gym's health and it had been demoted into a level 9 gym with 42k/50k prestige. Was 18k really removed that quickly?

This gym was created by putting 5 Pokémon in the gym. Next, prestige was taken to 50k while leaving all the openings unfilled. Finally, the openings were filled (2k added per addition), which created a 60k/50k gym.

Now, maybe 60k is just being displayed, but not stored as actual gym health. Does that mean that 52k is the max prestige? Or could a gang of attackers really inflict that much damage so quickly?

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Unfortunately, no, the prestige was never actually at 60k, despite being displayed that way. Prestige never actually is higher than 50k, regardless of how it appears. See this post:

The gym is not actually at 52k prestige - this is simply a bug. The gym is actually at 50k prestige, but due to the way the game handles adding a Pokemon (adding +2,000 Prestige each time) when you add the last defender possible to a Level 10 (maxed out) gym, it makes it go from 50,000/50,000 to - artificially - 52,000/50,000. It really is at 50,000 though. So if you were to attack it, according to recent findings (somebody tested this), it should actually drop down from 52,000 to below 48,000, resulting in somebody getting kicked out (it's just that the total Prestige drop displayed to you may not always match up, essentially because of the bug giving you false numbers to begin with).

  • It might actually have some defensive value. I bet many attackers would take a pass on attacking such a fearsome looking gym. – Jaqaex Oct 11 '16 at 17:09
  • @Jaqaex, I suppose if you have faith in security by obscurity-- that is, you assume that not many people know that the 50k+ prestige is erroneous and holds no value when attacking the gym. In reality, there is no defensive value if the number means nothing. Defeating the bottom Pokemon a single time would remove it from the gym and demote the gym to level 9. Even if a gym had the "maximum" 68k/50k prestige, successfully defeating the first Pokemon would "remove" over 18k prestige. – Vemonus Oct 11 '16 at 17:11
  • I think the fearsomeness of the gym is simply the fact that it has 10 (hopefully strong) Pokemon in it, and it's going to take a ton of time and a ton of potions to clear out. – Ellesedil Oct 11 '16 at 17:20
  • @Ellesedil Yeah but I think Jaqaex was specifically talking about the higher-than-50k prestige rather than the occupants of the gym. In all honesty, I didn't know that it legitimately capped at 50k until I answered this question, though, so I'm going to bet that many people don't know yet, either. – Vemonus Oct 11 '16 at 17:22
  • @Ellesedil In my area (almost) all the gyms are level 10, each with Pokemons between 1800 and 3000 CP. The only real turn-over happens on weekends in gyms near bars where people watch football. I've always wondered if gyms have become this stagnant in other geographies? – Jaqaex Oct 11 '16 at 18:23

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