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I'm trying to catch a Castform. My understanding is it only arrives as an SOS Pokémon when weather is active. So I've got a Smeargle built for chaining and I'm fighting on Route 17. I've been through about a dozen Fearow, and they've called in a couple of Goomy, which I killed immediately to keep the Fearow around. I'm trying to make sure I'm doing everything right. I can't find anywhere that seems to explain SOS clearly, so I'm trying to figure out which of 3 cases is true:

  1. I see chains are "broken" if a Pokémon not in the same family is summoned. Does that mean when Goomy was summoned, the chance of a Castform being summoned later vanished? (More Fearow have been summoned since then.)
  2. Whether Goomy or Castform appears is related to which Pokémon I'm fighting, and Fearow will not summon Castform.
  3. I'm waiting for a particular dice roll, and it hasn't favored me yet.

I'm assuming (3), but need to know if (1) or (2) is true so I'm not wasting my time.

Post-accepted-answer followup:

I found a friend who was willing to trade for a Castform and moved on. When I was trying to catch a Vanillish, the first hail SOS was a Castform. Go figure. I think this does confirm there's nothing wrong with this process, but that Castform's a pain in the butt.

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Based on the information in this guide, it doesn't look like having a Goomy show up will block your chances of getting a Castform, so that rules out point 1:

Switch to your stall/oneshot Pokémon, and wait for the wild mon to call for help. Keep knocking out whatever it calls that's not the desired rare spawn.

As to point 2, from here

The even better thing about S.O.S. Battles is that they don't necessarily call the same Pokémon. In the encounter listings, there are up to 8 different rows of Pokémon and when a Pokémon calls for help, it will select a random encounter row and give you a Pokémon of the same slot in that row as the Pokémon you are facing.

As all Weather-SOS Pokemon are in the same row for Route 17, this also supports that having a Goomy show up will not prevent a Castform from showing up.

The only way to break the chain and negate the ability to call for help is if the original wild spawn, or any other Pokémon in its evolutionary family, are eliminated from the chain. Using your Fearow as an example, he calls for help and Goomy appears, you proceed to kill Fearow instead, the chain ends and no more help can be called. As long as any Pokémon from the original wild spawn's evolutionary chain remains, the chain is live.


This leaves you with only point 3 remaining, and I believe this is what's happening. I'm fairly confident that you are just experiencing bad RNG. From experience, Castform (and Goomy) have pretty low spawn rates to begin with, so that probably doesn't help your situation, either.

(As a side note, the 255th chain is the farthest you can go. You can have chain 256, but it will start over and be considered chain 1. Therefore, the rules regarding shinies, HAs and IVs and their likelihood of appearance also restart.)

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    I'd back point 3 - took me about an hour and a half of calls for me to get my castform yesterday – Kevin L Dec 7 '16 at 16:44
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    Thanks, this was what I was expecting, I just like to double-check. I spent an hour looking for Bagon in the wrong patch of grass early in the playthrough, so I'm in the habit of double-checking every now and then. – OwenP Dec 7 '16 at 17:45
  • @OwenP I did the exact same thing with Bagon, tbh – Vemonus Dec 7 '16 at 17:45
  • I'm sorry, but what is RNG again? – JTR Dec 8 '16 at 9:48
  • @JTR Random Number Generation – Vemonus Dec 8 '16 at 13:09
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I realize this was asked closer to the game's initial release, but this answer will give additional info alongside @Vemonus's answer.

Based on the information at Bulbapedia, Castform will appear on Route 17, but it will be more likely to appear if the weather is Hail or Sandstorm. It behaves this way in other locations with natural weather: in Haina Desert, it prefers Rain or Hail; on Mount Lanakila, it prefers Rain or Sandstorm. The best options for chaining would be Haina Desert or Mount Lanakila, as you can choose to make it rain, which doesn't hurt any Pokemon.

That said, I had a hard time even getting Goomy, so the RNG may cause problems.

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