I used to skip gold quests for mercenaries for a long time, except when starting a new ascension to get a quick boost.

I always played the active style, but recently I decided to check if it would help to go on idle by buying the idle ancients and upgrading them to levels where they used about 1-3% of my total Hero Souls. The damage done was too low to notice when the idle mode kicked in, so I continued in my active style.

But now I suddenly get a bit more gold then I have at that moment from mercenaries, where I previously got about xE15 lower.

Probably one or more of the following ancients have some great influence on the gold gained from mercenary quests:

  1. Libertas (gold related)
  2. Nogardnit (gold related)
  3. Siyalatas

What is the actual calculation for the gold gained from mercenary quests?

Some information about my game:

  • Mercenary levels: 15-25
  • Tested at levels: 8000-8100
  • Gold at the moment of collecting: xE636
  • Gold gained from the mercenary: xE637-xE638
  • Gold gained form the mercenary before added ancients: xE622-xE625
  • I got 7 autoclickers clicking the field, 1 clicking the upgrade for Tsuchi
  • Level of Xyliqil: 0

I wrote these out of memory, exact gold amount may not be correct, but the actual differences between them are.

The wikia page didn't provided much info either.

  • Lib and Nog affect Merc gold if you're in idle. Is that what you're asking?
    – Dallium
    Commented Jun 11, 2017 at 6:28
  • @Dallium well, that is the strange part of it, the gold from Mercs is increased even though I'm not idle. I understand that they affect gold when idle.
    – Mixxiphoid
    Commented Jun 11, 2017 at 8:05

1 Answer 1


Merc gold sure seems to be based on your Timelapse gold, which is based on how much gold you'd get in 8 hours of farming your HZE in a given Ascension. That takes into account your current DPS and what gold ancients you have. But it also isn't perfect, because it applies idle bonuses to that total even if you would need to be active to do any damage whatsoever. To the best of my knowledge, no one had figured out the exact equation. And that's not because it's a particularly difficult problem, it's because it really doesn't matter in efficient play.

The people who are both smart enough and dedicated to CH enough to figure these things out are also primarily concerned with efficiency, and introducing idle ancients into a full active playstyle to sporadically collect Merc Gold quests to push deeper into an run you almost certainly should have already Ascended out of isn't efficient. It also isn't wrong or bad, and anyone who tries to make you feel bad for playing any (solo) game the way you want can sod off. Disclaimers aside, most players only bother with Merc gold quests during their FANTs, to be used right before respecing all HS into Solomon at zone 104. As long as the gold gets you to Frostleaf 50+, you can get to 130, the last guaranteed primal boss and an ideal zone to ascend. And by the time you're regularly using TimeLapses, you're doing it to skip zones on your LABT, and the gold isn't really a concern. In either case, calculating the exact amount of gold you'd get is unnecessary.

You might consider visiting the Clicker Heroes Subreddit, specifically in the Monthly Help megathread. Someone might be interested enough to figure it out, or know someone who calculated it for their own satisfaction without ever bothering to post it.

You also might consider switching your calculator to Hybrid, and using the Nogfish trick, which is taking all your clickers off everything, waiting for your idle bonus to kick in, then clicking the orange fish, netting a huge gold spike.

Sorry this isn't quite the answer you were looking for.

TL;DR: No one knows.

Glossary of terms

HZE: Highest Zone Ever
FANT: First Ascension of a New Transcension
LABT: Last Ascension Before Transcension

  • Your last hint is something I did not try yet. It is indeed not the ideal answer I'm looking for, but thanks for the effort of writing it down.
    – Mixxiphoid
    Commented Jun 12, 2017 at 9:12

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