I just received a somewhat large vassal after defeating them in a war with my alliance. Now when I check the subject integration it says it costs 1105 influence but the absolute maximum I can ever reach is 1k ... is there a way to lower the integration cost or will I never be able to integrate them (in a non game modifying way)?

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    Declare war on his neighbor but don't come to his aid at first. Anything that makes the power gap between you and your vassal larger, should work.
    – Sjoerd
    Jul 15, 2017 at 14:26
  • That won't work in this case as that vassal has no border friction with anyone other than my empire and one of my alliance's member's. Besides, his fleet was completely destroyed by me and another war will reduce neither his naval capacity (I destroyed pretty much any of his space ports) nor his technology research. They're absolutely not powerful anymore, it's just that they have occupied quite some space. Jul 18, 2017 at 13:18

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There is bit of misunderstanding in your sentence:

Integration it says it costs 1105 influence but the absolute maximum I can ever reach is 1k

The integration cost can go well over 1k and indeed the maximum accumulated influence limit is just 1000, but you pay for integration on monthly basis -5 points per month until you'll pay it all, not a total number all at once. So it is not as hard to offset that cost by other means like declaring rivalries, gaining support from factions, completing your ruler's mandate etc.

I was going to write here about the Vassal Acculturation, but according to wiki it has been changed - instead of reducing the integration cost by 33% now it provides Unity bonus:

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  • You're right. I had assumed you needed the accumulated influence in order to start vassal integration, wich was a misinterpretation on my side. Yes, they changed the effect of Vassal Acculturation in 1.8. I will mark your answer. Oct 19, 2017 at 7:48

The tradition Vassal Acculturation in the Domination tree causes the vassal integration cost to drop by 33%. In this case from 1105 to ca. 737, which is a reachable amount.

  • You might want to reword this if possible. It's giving off a comment vibe.
    – Timmy Jim
    Jul 15, 2017 at 0:20
  • I could be more accurate but other than that I'm not sure what you actually mean. I'd actually have added this as comment but I wanted to solve the question. Jul 18, 2017 at 13:20
  • It's not that it's inaccurate, it's just that it's worded in a forum like manner. It be more appropriate if you worded it as if you weren't the one asking the question. Here on Arqade, we take format into strong consideration when reviewing posts. Basically, I'm just trying to help you out for any future answers you may post here ☺
    – Timmy Jim
    Jul 18, 2017 at 13:24
  • You could improve this answer by stating which tradition in which tree gives that benefit.
    – Philipp
    Jul 24, 2017 at 14:53
  • @TimmyJim & Philipp I changed my answer, thanks for mentioning. Aug 10, 2017 at 17:24

The influence cost doesn't really mean much as you still gain influence.

It's very difficult to actually reach zero from 1k unless you have -7 influence gain for over 100 months which integration generally is but the influence cost is maxed out at -5 per month until the cost is reached.

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