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The way that I interpret the pacifist ending is that after Frisk/Chara restores everyone's memories by "reaching for their souls", he/she then finds his/her own soul (which Asgore would have taken when he/she died) and recovers his/her own memories. Chara now fully realizes that he/she is the same person as the first human. After the Asrial fight, Chara sees that Asrial is coming to terms with grief. Because of what had happened before, where Asrial put everyone's lives in danger, Chara does not want to reveal who he/she is, as it would freak everyone out and make Asrial return to his obsessive self. Chara decides to use the fake name "Frisk", to protect everyone.

I keep seeing people say that Frisk and Chara are different people, but I don't see how that would work (especially considering that Chara will keep whatever name you enter, when you do a genocide run). I see various theories about the game which state this like a fact. People who do this without giving any evidence can be a bit annoying.

What evidence is there to justify the theory that Chara and Frisk are different people?

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    There's no need to single out other answers in your question. I've removed all references to the other answer. Please do not add them back in again. – Wipqozn May 14 '18 at 11:33
  • @Wipqozn My main problem was with dividing the first paragraph, as I felt it was harmful to the structure, not the link. I will keep Robotnik's title and I will not add the link back in, but I still fell that I have not been given a proper reason as to why the link was removed. I have made a post to meta which I will edit to explain why, when I am next able to. – Super S May 17 '18 at 8:23
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    @SuperS your feelings about other people's thoughts on this game are, to put it bluntly, completely unnecessary for you to ask the question. I'm really unsure why you insist on adding that back in over and over. We have explained why the link was removed multiple times (it adds nothing to help your question). Please desist. – Ash May 17 '18 at 15:18
  • @Ash I have. The link is no longer part of the question, and I have no intention of adding it back in. – Super S May 17 '18 at 15:22
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    Yeah, but now you have a sentence that's absolutely irrelevant to the question. How things make you feel doesn't matter one bit. State the question, leave the feelings out of it. – Frank May 17 '18 at 22:19
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You are approaching this like there is only one ending, but really there are 5 main endings to get the full scale of what’s happening:

  1. True Pacifist (the one you were talking about)
  2. Pacifist (staying Level 1 but not befriending everyone)
  3. Neutral where you kill some and spare some (this is the only ending with sub endings)
  4. No Mercy (killing every encounter)
  5. Genocide (Grinding to lvl 20)

The True Pacifist and Genocide endings reveal the most story. In the Genocide ending Chara Stands right there, and talks to you, Frisk. In the pacifist ending, it states multiple times, that Flowey has no soul, and Flowey is Asriel so it says “you feel something resonating within their soul, stronger and stronger” that is theorized to be Chara because again, Flowey does not have a soul, and Asriel is Flowey

  • I thought that in the genoside run, Frisk/Chara talks directly to the player. After Chara kills Flowey, he/she assumes his/her genoside form. Are you trying to tell me that throughout the genoside run you play as Frisk, and Chara just magically appears at the end? I’m sorry, but that doesn’t make much sense. I thought there was a mirror in Tori’s house which reads “It’s me <Name>”, proving that you play as Chara in the genoside run. Since you start from the same point in a pacifist run, it wouldn’t make much sense if Frisk and Chara were different. – Super S May 14 '18 at 5:21
  • @SuperS It is implied that Frisk and Chara share the soul, but that doesn't mean that Frisk IS Chara - only that Chara is part of you - the part that you call on when you go the genocide route. From here we can go in whole discussion "nature vs nurture" style - are you defined by what you've been born as or by your deeds. – Yasskier May 14 '18 at 21:27
  • @Yasskier It isn’t implied. Has anyone even brought up anything about the souls yet? A person could have had 2 souls throughout their life (which would make sense in UNDERTALE), as easily as 2 people sharing the same soul. I have already suggested how Frisk/Chara could have got 2 souls. – Super S May 17 '18 at 16:16
  • @SuperS Having someone's soul doesn't mean that you are that person - at one stage Flowey has 6 souls, yet he doesn't change him into human – Yasskier May 17 '18 at 23:44
  • @Yasskier I know. Frisk/Chara could have had a monster’s soul throughout the time you control him/her, but throughout neutral and pacifist, he/she is still recognised as a human. – Super S May 21 '18 at 8:02
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From the entry at Undertale wiki:

Chara, also known as the first human or the fallen human, is the first human to fall into the Underground. Chara is also the fallen human that the player names at the start of the game, and not the controllable character who is played throughout the entirety of Undertale.

Frisk is the playable character and main protagonist of Undertale. After Frisk falls into the Underground, they embark on a journey to return to the surface. Frisk is the last of the eight humans to fall into the Underground after travelling to Mt. Ebott.

So no, physically they are not the same characters. But yes, indeed Chara seems to "stir in your soul" when you are following the Genocide route. This does not imply that Frisk IS Chara, only that Chara is/can be inside Frisk as something within his SOUL. But in the Undertale having someone else's soul doesn't make you that person: Flowey has at one stage 6 humans souls yet he doesn't change his behaviour.

In the Genocide Route, Chara says that the protagonist's "determination" and "human soul" awakened them from death. There is evidence that some narration, as well as descriptions of certain actions and events, is by Chara themself. However, the narrator throughout the entirety of Undertale is up to speculation.

  • Wikis are things that anyone can edit. They are not always a good source. – Super S Jun 6 '18 at 7:28
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That was not so clear to me. I did the pacifist route and I called my character Angelo (my name) and after I woke up everyone called me Frisk. Actually, from what I understood it looks like Frisk is the character I played (Angelo) and Chara the player itself (so me). That may be right, especially considering that Omega Flowey talks about SAVE, LOAD, ecc. So, in that moment it is talking to the player and so to Chara and not to Frisk. However it doesn’t explain why they keep calling me Frisk instead of Angelo. I mean I understand that Chara and Frisk/Angelo are two separate entities, but if they have always called me Angelo, how did they take the name Frisk?

  • I think Frisk was the first name that Chara thought of when he/she beat the pacifist run. – Super S Nov 10 '18 at 9:49
  • There's a lot of maybes here. Can you back any of this up, or is it all conjecture? – Jason_c_o Nov 10 '18 at 10:39

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