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I build this creeper farm with a cat and waterflow mechanics to farm gunpowder but I cant find a good spot to afk in.

here is a screenshot of the place, I've put carpets to prevent spiders from spawning and I've put wooden trapdoors on top so only creepers can spawn in here.

The cat in the middle scares the creepers that then fall in the water stream and get taken to a magma block which kills them in about 20 seconds.

It's built under the ocean and I've lit up the caves surrounding the farm so spawn rate should be good.

When I come close to the area and enter the farm I get a few creepers spawning and then it all shuts down.

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I've tried standing here -

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which is about 30-ish blocks away from the center of the farm

and I've tried standing on top of it like this

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I've been afk for hours but no creepers spawn.

I know that mobs will not spawn more than 128 blocks away from a player, and if they are 32-128 blocks away from a player they will start to randomly spawn and despawn. The optimal distance I thought would be around 30-ish but the creepers aren't spawning.

Does anyone have any idea why they don't spawn at all and at what distance I should be AFK in order to get it to run?

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  • There was a thing implemented which prevented mobs from spawning if you weren't in the chunk or something like that. When i found out about it, it ruined my mob farm. – L_Church Jun 5 '18 at 15:18
  • So that would mean i need to be in the same chunk -> no more than 16 blocks away from the most far away block -> mobs only spawn 24 blocks away from a player. Am I missing something ? – Denislav Karagiozov Jun 5 '18 at 15:20
  • i think that question is better asked for myself. am i missing something in my own experiences ... maybe it is to do with how they are creepers? is there anything online about this stuff? – L_Church Jun 5 '18 at 15:23
  • minecraft.gamepedia.com/Spawn - jump to SPAWN CONDITIONS for MOBS Spawn Conditions The following rules apply to all mobs: Can only spawn 24 blocks spherical radius or further from the player. Cannot spawn if the block below them is air. Cannot spawn if that mob would collide with an existing mob. Cannot spawn on slabs or carpet. – Denislav Karagiozov Jun 5 '18 at 15:26
  • @DenislavKaragiozov What is your question then? It's right there, where you linked to. – Fabian Röling Jun 5 '18 at 15:38
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I'm not sure they spawn underground as much as they do above ground. The game probably sees the farm as a house and there's probably code in the game preventing creepers from spawning inside player-built buildings, and probably buildings in general. It's been a while since I've played the game though, so correct me if I'm wrong.
-So maybe try removing the roof.
-It could also be the cat. Maybe creepers don't spawn around them out of fear.

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