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After a bunch of political scheming and clever marriages, I made my wife queen of Aquitaine, making my son the heir to both Valencia and Aquitaine. Then he died.

Then my other son died, leaving my daughter as heir. Due to the marriage, she was a member of my wife's court and I couldn't restrict her marriage, meaning I couldn't break off her (nonmatrilineal) betrothal. Naturally I tried to assassinate her fiance but it failed.

I tried to make more sons but my wife was too old. Now I'm playing as the daughter, and I'm pregnant. The child will be a non-dynastic heir, and a game over for the descendants of The Cid.

How can I survive this? Bonus points if I can still inherit Aquitaine, but I'll take anything that leaves me playing as Valencia.

Some relevant notes:

  • My succession is Agnatic-Cognatic Primogeniture. My current heir is my dynastic uncle, until my child is born.
  • I haven't ruled very long and have multiple vassals with negative opinion (one in the -60s). Changing succession law is maybe an option, but not an easy one.
  • The Pope won't grant me a divorce, despite my husband being excommunicated.
  • I have a decent income for bribes, etc., but not endless money.
  • Plotting to assassinate my husband isn't working.

The current situation

Any ideas?

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    If you'd like to suggest an edit that Arqade won't consider clickbaity, go ahead. – Studoku Sep 23 '18 at 18:44
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    Uh, looking at the pre-edit title, it sure doesn't look clickbaity to me. How is "I'm a woman and about to lose my dynasty" clickbaity? – Fambida Sep 24 '18 at 1:57
  • Anyone that doesn't know what crusader kings is, might consider it a bit click-baity. I for one did. But in saying that, I don't see why that's a problem. – Ben Sep 24 '18 at 9:07
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    Almost every question from Crusader Kings is 'click baity'. That has never been a problem and it shouldn't be now. – Nelson Sep 25 '18 at 6:36
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    Even if it was, titles that are funny with no context has been a proud Arqade tradition for years. – Studoku Sep 25 '18 at 10:26
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I've never tried it, but you can probably kill yourself pretty quickly by closing the castle gates and letting your court starve. This seems like the most straightforward option.

Check your uncle to see if he has any kids. I believe cousins are far enough apart to marry, so hopefully he'll have some kid of the opposite sex to yours. Unfortunately I believe your kid will be in your husband's court since you are married regularly to him, but if I'm mistaken you can try to marry him to your uncle's kid (or another kid of your dynasty).

While parents are not allowed to plot to assassinate their kids, they are allowed to plot to kidnap them, which gives the option upon kidnapping to kill them. Babies tend to have low intrigue and lukewarm opinion in the court, so usually it's easy to find enough plotters, possibly with a little grease, to get the score high enough for the event to fire quickly. This will make you cruel, and I believe can make you a kinslayer if you are identified as the plot leader, but this is not the end of the world, and actually helps you out in a way.

If your uncle has a claim on the throne, he may get made the leader of a faction to overthrow it. You can piss off more vassals to get them to join that faction, and then "reluctantly" acquiesce when they demand your abdication. This should keep your uncle as your heir even if you have a non-dynastic kid, although you end up losing some of your demense on death.

You should have the option to kill yourself if your character ever gets depressed. Having friends die causes depression, so you can try making friends of people you can make commanders to try to get them killed.

This is another "I don't remember if this quite how it works, but you could try it" things - if you have a bastard child that isn't acknowledged by the father, I'm pretty sure it stays in your dynasty. So, you could go for the seduction focus and hope for the best.

If you ever get a deadly sin trait, you can join the Satan worshipers (assuming you have Monks and Mystics). Rank 3 lets you "dark divorce" your husband (i.e. kill him), Rank 4 lets you sacrifice your children in exchange for a longer life.

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    Wow, this got really dark toward the end! – Paul Z Sep 24 '18 at 10:31
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    @PaulZ It started off with "kill yourself to solve the problem". It was dark from start to finish. As CK2 often is. – Studoku Sep 25 '18 at 10:27
  • Accepted because it would have worked if I hadn't given birth and died too quickly to follow it. – Studoku Sep 25 '18 at 13:10
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    @Studoku "And I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those meddling babies." – IllusiveBrian Sep 25 '18 at 14:33
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Just had this situation ingame.

Had 3 children of a pre-existing marriage with my new character, which was not matrilineal (one of them a son).

Managed to imprison and execute the son (kinslayer trait). My husband died in battle, married another husband (this time matrilineal) which resulted in 2 daughters!? When I though about giving up on this, I get another pregnacy and my 2nd huband dies. A girl again!

I was 33 years old, ill and about to die when (finaly!) my 3rd husband presents me with a SON! my lineage is stronger again and i must protect him at all costs... After all, if he dies my lineage dies with him because my 1st 2 children are before "my house" children!

Hope this isn't very confusing...

TLDR: after about 5 pregnacies, I managed to secure a son and a lineage for my family.

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