I've been playing a lot of Dark Pit in Smash Ultimate, and I've noticed that if I hit my opponent with my neutral aerial (nair) as I fall down, it drags my opponent with me.

If I land on the stage while falling with my opponent, it always seems that he gets in the next hit. I've tried jabbing and grabbing as soon as I hit the ground and neither seems to beat out whatever my opponent happens to throw out.

Is there any way to get in a guaranteed hit - or at least avoid my opponent's attack - when I fall on to the stage with nair?

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    I believe Pit's lag when landing before finishing nair is greater than the opponent's hitstun. You might be able to catch them unaware, but I think they'll always be able to act a few frames before you. You could combo out of the last hit of nair if you don't fast fall it and I'm pretty sure drag down up-air can combo into grab or up-smash...That being said, this is all just from asking the Pit player at my local scene, which to me isn't enough evidence to write an answer for.
    – scohe001
    Feb 12, 2019 at 2:48

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The non-final hits of Pit's neutral aerial deal 0.7% damage with 100 knockback scaling, and the parts that hit downwards have 30 fixed knockback (source). This means it'll do somewhere in the range of 37.06-45.65 knockback and therefore 13-17 hitstun (the variance is based on weight).

However, Pit's neutral aerial has a landing lag of 14, and his jab and grab don't hit until 5 and 6 respectively. So in the absolute best-case scenario, where you land the frame after you hit with the neutral aerial, the opponent can begin their next action 2 frames before your attack or grab comes out. Since perfection isn't guaranteed, the looping hits happen every 3 frames, and the opponent can land before you do, this'll get even worse.

So falling n-air with Pit isn't that followupable unless you're in a position where you will land significantly earlier than your opponent (and they still need to land before their aerial action comes out).

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