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I don't get why you're fighting her.

It seems like Ranni supports you by giving you the spirit-calling bell early on, then you kill her mother, then she takes you into her service afterwards as if nothing happens.

It doesn't make any sense, does it?

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I don't get why you're fighting her.

You fight her because she's a shardbearer. According to Gideon, you will need the Great Runes of at least 2 shardbearers in order to repair the Elden Ring and become Elden Lord.

It seems like Ranni supports you by giving you the spirit-calling bell early on

Actually, she's only fulfilling a request from Torrent's previous owner. At this point she neither supports nor opposes you.

then you kill her mother

That actually never happens. After the fight, Rennala will remain as an NPC that allows you to respec your character. Her arena becomes a non-combat zone, so killing her is impossible unless there is a bug that allows it.

then she takes you into her service afterwards as if nothing happens.

That's probably because nothing happened from her point of view. The moment you defeat Rennala, you can hear the following lines:

Upon my name as Ranni the Witch.
Mother's rich slumber shall not be disturbed by thee.
Foul trespasser.
Send word far and wide.
Of the last Queen of Caria, Rennala of the Full Moon.
And the majesty of the night she conjureth.

This happens even after you've met her and implies that she doesn't know who you are. And since she's nowhere to be seen at any point before, during, or after the fight, Rennala's second phase may be understood as either a spell that triggers automatically, or as a remote spell that doesn't allow her to know who you are.

In other words, even if she knows that something happened, she might not know you're the one who did it.

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  • I don't find this convincing. You attack Renalla and if you don't kill her, you nearly succeed.
    – fox
    May 18 at 7:44
  • "Her arena becomes a non-combat zone, so killing her is impossible unless there is a bug that allows it." Is it possible to draw a line-of-sight to her from outside the no-combat area to shoot her to death with a bow (e.g. through the open doors to the arena)? Also, it's entirely possible that she just respawned after you killed her during the boss fight, because that's a thing that happens to a lot of people in the Lands Between, thanks to the Rune of Death being sealed away.
    – nick012000
    May 18 at 13:58
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    @nick012000, I tried shooting her with a crossbow, but the bolts passed right through her. Just to be sure the bolts actually pass through her instead of simply despawning, I tried shooting explosive bolts: they pass right through her and explode behind her. At no point did it look like Rennala received any damage.
    – Nolonar
    May 18 at 18:57
  • Huh. I wonder if the other NPCs in no-violence zones are like that, too. Testing the Roundtable Hold might be a bit difficult, but off of the top of my head, it might be possible to try shooting the battlemage NPC that sells you magic Ashes of War might be able to be sniped when he's hanging out in the Church, before he heads off to Roundtable Hold.
    – nick012000
    May 20 at 2:28
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    Phase 2 of the battle occurs in a dream world - and it is widely accepted that it's not actual Rennala you're fighting, but a figment created by Ranni's spell. As result, Rennala herself never comes close to dying.
    – SF.
    Jun 29 at 10:34

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