Let's say I wanted +2 Perception.

I could...

  1. Put two points into Perception.
  2. Put two points into VANS; the second rank gives you +2 Perception.

Seems like for 2 points I could have +2 Perception, or I could have +2 Perception and bonus VANS pathfinding.

VANS pathfinding isn't the best perk, but is there any downside to taking 2 ranks of VANS instead of 2 ranks of Perception?

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The difference is that VANS gives a +2 bonus to Perception. It does not give +2 Perception.

This means that rank 2 VANS will not unlock Perception perks.

  • And when you go into vats there's a silly green arrow. Nope.
    – Mazura
    Commented Sep 29, 2023 at 19:32

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