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Once, I tried a load order that involved installing both Tetrachromatic ENB and Spring Forest Overhaul. I found my game couldn't handle it. Trying just Spring Forest Overhaul on its own, I found it alone made my game lag (thought not nearly as much with the ENB installed). I've since found that I can't run any enb without at least a drop of 20 fps.

The strange thing though, is that I exceed the system requirements for the game. This baffles me. If Skyrim LE couldn't run any better on my system, then why do mods exist that my game can't handle? The video where the guy was demonstrating these mods wasn't suffering any issues. I don't get it. I've asked this several other places, but have never gotten one reply. If I'm running this game as best as it can be run, then why do mods exist that my game can't handle? I've never been able to understand this.

Also, just so we know, I haven't had Skyrim installed for probably half a year now. I got fed up with trying to get it stable, and dealing with some of the less savory members of the community. The reason I'm bringing this up is that I can't run any tests now to figure out what could be wrong. Also, since then I've switched to Ubuntu, and never did get mod organizer running before I quit.

I'm just looking for an answer to why my game couldn't handle any enb despite other people's games clearly being able to do so and my system well exceeding the system requirements for it. In fact, when I played SE, I was running 4k paralax textures and any enb I wanted with no more than 3 or 4 frames lost. Seriously. Clearly I didn't have a weak rig. Of course, LE couldn't handle anything higher than 2k, and no paralax, and no enb no matter how performance friendly it was. It doesn't add up. What could have been going on?

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The strange thing though, is that I exceed the system requirements for the game. This baffles me. If Skyrim LE couldn't run any better on my system, then why do mods exist that my game can't handle?

The system requirements on Steam are written assuming you use the game as-is (i.e. with no mods). As you are probably aware, Skyrim was released in 2011, and many people today have gaming computers that are much, much more powerful than what is listed in Skyrim's system requirements. Those people have designed mods that are suitable for running on those far more powerful systems, rather than sticking to what was reasonable in 2011.

In the case of ENB: ENB heavily modifies the game's entire rendering pipeline. It introduces (or can introduce) many expensive visual effects that were never in the original game (and so Bethesda did not account for them when writing the system requirements).

Finally, I feel obligated to point out that your system does not meet the minimum requirements of either LE or SE, which both say the OS should be some version of Windows. Ubuntu is not Windows, so you do not meet this requirement. It might still work regardless, but you can blame neither Bethesda nor the modders who created ENB if it does not. Of course, you probably shouldn't blame the creators of ENB in any case, since you have not paid for ENB. They don't owe you a working game.

In fact, when I played SE, I was running 4k paralax textures and any enb I wanted with no more than 3 or 4 frames lost. Seriously. Clearly I didn't have a weak rig. Of course, LE couldn't handle anything higher than 2k, and no paralax, and no enb no matter how performance friendly it was. It doesn't add up. What could have been going on?

This points to an entirely different problem: SE is a 64-bit application. It can effectively make use of all RAM that is installed in a reasonable consumer-grade system (or, for that matter, an unreasonable consumer-grade system). LE is a 32-bit application. It can effectively make use of 4 GB of RAM. ENB introduces a secondary program which can make use of additional RAM, but this really only helps with the memory that is used by ENB itself (and not by any other part of the game).

Also, since then I've switched to Ubuntu, and never did get mod organizer running before I quit.

That further complicates things, since Skyrim was designed to run on Windows, as were most mods. It's possible that there is some kind of performance issue which affects ENB on Linux, but only for 32-bit applications. Or it could be some entirely different problem. There's not a lot of testing on Linux, so you're flying blind.

Since you have already determined that SE works and LE does not, the obvious solution is to move to SE. There are very few remaining mods that only work on LE, especially since the vast majority of mods can be directly ported to SE with minimal difficulty.

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  • Additionally (as I was writing up an answer, as well): try using a less intensive ENB preset, and learn to tweak it using the in-game menu. There is also a Performance version of Spring Forest Overhaul, which could improve ..performance.
    – Joachim
    Commented Apr 19 at 23:16
  • SE always ran worse on my system. Yeah, it could handle better graphics, but mods or not it made no difference on stability. I could have over 100 mods on LE an zero on SE and LE would give me far, far less crashes. Besides, I despise what bethesda did to the game with the utterly revolting AE update. SE is dead to me as far as I'm concerned.
    – user314533
    Commented Apr 20 at 6:17
  • Of course, I've since found out that I only had 8bg of ram on this machine (and no, I never tried to run ENB on this thing, I said I hadn't used ANY mods yet on this comp). Its no surprise I had troubles running SE in the past; I was exceeding the ram on my computer. I've since doubled it, though I haven't tried SE on this thing for obvious reasons. Besides, LE supposedly runs better on linux anyway. Funny story btw, LE did run better than it ever did on windows 10. Didn't help with CRASHES INCREASINGLY EXPONENTIALLY IN FREQUENCY AS A PLAYTHROUGH WENT ON.
    – user314533
    Commented Apr 20 at 6:19
  • @user8600: Edited to note that the system requirements explicitly call for "Windows" as your OS.
    – Kevin
    Commented Apr 20 at 6:22
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    @user8600: I am not telling you Skyrim "sucks" on it. I am telling you that Skyrim is not supported on it. Nobody has explicitly promised that it will work. It might work, and it might be better than Windows, but if it does not work, you have no recourse (so you can stop pointing to the minimum requirements).
    – Kevin
    Commented Apr 20 at 18:00

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