Can I stop my Lords from hating me?

Question

Every time I assign a fief, I get +20 with the lord I assign it to.

I also get -5 with every other lord.

Now given that I have 8 lords. If I assign everyone a fief, thats:

 20 - 5 - 5 - 5 - 5 - 5 - 5 - 5 = -15;

So basically my the more fiefs I capture the more I am hated. This is definately a flaw in the game.

I hear that having a family as your lords means it instead goes up for everyone. But lets be honest, its hard enough getting Lords on your side, Im sure not dropping all my existing and then trying to get more from scratch. Im at war, I need them.

Also, I guess I could assign all fiefs to one Lord til they hit 100, then move on to the next. But the negative I will gain with the lords would be huge. And could lead to them deserting.

I tried this TweakMB. It doesn't find the files. I select Floris 1.50. Im running Floris 1.53. How can I do it manually. I cant find the right info online.

Answer 1

In game, you can consult with all your lords before appointing a fief, then appoint the fief to the lord who has the most supporters amongst other lords. This should limit the negative relations hit to the lords who did not support the lord who eventually gets the fief.

Failing that you can modify your game using the module system to lessen the relationships hit. IF you're not familiar with modding the game and the module system this can be a bit of a challenge, but the way to do it is:

Find the file module_scripts.py, and look for the script give_center_to_lord.

Find the line:

(val_clamp, ":relation_with_liege_change", -5, 3)

This line signifies that the relationship change between lords and liege when awarding fiefs varies between -5 and 3. Change those values to whatever you like, for example -1, 20.

Note that this change will also affect other kings, so this makes getting their vassals harder.

To make the change only affect the player, change the line by this piece of code:

(try_begin),
(eq, ":faction_leader", "trp_player"),
(val_clamp, ":relation_with_liege_change", -5, 3), ##CHANGE THIS LINE HOWEVER YOU'D LIKE
(else_try),
(val_clamp, ":relation_with_liege_change", -5, 3), #THIS WILL BE FOR ALL OTHER KINGDOMS
(try_end)

Again, change the values in the above piece of code to whatever you want.

Source: talewords forum.

Answer 2

You can also wait till he is 'devoted' then try to recruit said lord, at that point he wont take any loyalty hit when you give the village to another lord. Alternativly, when you are recruiting for lords, be sure to tell them when they ask why they should join 'BECAUSE I WILL DEAL WITH ALL MEN FAIRLY'. This will lessen the amount of greedy lords that will come to your banner, and you're telling them starting off that you plan to deal with all lords equaly.

Answer 3

Without resorting to cheating, you make handle the issue by:

1. As it was already said, consulting lords on what do they think, and give the fief to the most popular lord lowers the penalty (or it should).
2. Hosting feasts frequently, it allows you to quickly restore the losses.
3. Obtaining good relationships with lords that you invite in advance, before they become your lords.
4. Probably limiting the amount of lords you have at the very beginning.

Yes, it is supposed to be hard to be a good ruler and maintain good relationships with everyone!