Every time I've played Civ 4 my first Settler starts on what looks like a pretty good square for a city, and I build it turn 1. Has anyone ever found it to be a worthwhile strategy to scout around a bit to see if there is a better location? If so how often is there one nearby?

  • It doesn't really make a difference: One place is as good as another.
    – GnomeSlice
    Commented Sep 28, 2010 at 17:08
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    If you move into a flat square, you won't even lose a turn.
    – Larry Wang
    Commented Sep 28, 2010 at 18:36
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    @GnomeSlice - ?
    – orokusaki
    Commented Sep 28, 2010 at 21:42

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So the map usually places you in a decent spot (ie. near good resources), but you can actually disable this option.

If you disable spawning near resources then the answer becomes very obvious. However, even in the case where you do spawn near good resources I always move my scout/warrior first to see if there are better resources I might want. I usually prefer growth based resources over military ones (ie horses) or commerce based ones.

In FFH2 (a mod for Civ4) you frequently start in "bad" locations, and I almost always move to a better location. Normally, I don't want my first city near Mana, as it doesn't help a ton to get up and running (when I have the option of other resources, obviously Mana is better than nothing), but I don't want someone else to steal it.

Another thing to consider is the size of your map. On smaller maps, moving your Settler is punished by running into other Civilizations. On larger maps, you usually have tons of room to look around and expand.

My take home might be: usually, just found your city where you start, but always make sure to move your Warrior/Scout first, just in case.

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    +1 for your fourth paragraph. Small maps make for faster games, too, and wasting a lot of moves up front will put you further behind on a small map than a huge one.
    – sjohnston
    Commented Sep 28, 2010 at 17:15
  • In case it wasn't obvious, I pretty much only play FFH2 on Civ4 so a lot of my information spawns from there.
    – tzenes
    Commented Sep 28, 2010 at 17:23
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    what is FFH2 an acronym for? I'll also add that since your settler has 2 movement, depending on terrain there is 0 penalty for moving one space before settling your city. Commented Sep 28, 2010 at 17:39
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    @Raven Fall From Heaven 2. It dramatically changes Civilization from (what I find to be) a boring game to a fascinating one. Instead of having a single interweaving tech tree, it has several disparate branches which don't share prerequisites. Additionally it increases the value of promotions, adds heroes, magic and completely changes the nature of religion. Its as big a shift from Civ4 as DotA is from Warcraft.
    – tzenes
    Commented Sep 28, 2010 at 17:45
  • Just to say I implemented this advice last weekend. My Settler was initially placed to take advantage of a couple of resources, elephant and spice, which wouldn't be useful until later. But moving my warrior revealed a juicy corn only a couple of squares away. No contest. I moved my settler. Commented Oct 26, 2010 at 15:19

I have found moving to a square next to a river or coast to be massively useful, if my starting square is not. This lets you setup trade routes much earlier by researching the naval techs and connecting your cities by rivers/coast.

You can run trade off of rivers/coasts for a LONG time before you really need to connect your cities by road. Your workers can be off doing other things till then. This plan also has the nice side effect of making you want to settle along rivers, which boosts $$ income all by itself.

What do trade routes get you?

  • More $$/Science
  • Resource spreading, which gets you other effects depending on the resource...
    • Ability to build units requiring resources immediately throughout your empire
    • Faster wonders
    • More happiness
    • More health

Now... how many of those are worth more to you than a turn?* Get that important wonder you would have missed? Twice as many swordsman? Finish Alphabet first?

*Sometimes not even a turn. As @Kaestur Hakarl points out, settlers have two move points, so you can move and still settle if the move is onto a flat/open square.

  • Very close between accepting this and tzenes answer. I would be very minded to accept a combined answer saying this, plus "hardly ever but try moving your military unit first", plus the comments about FFH2 and having "spawn near resources" off. Commented Sep 29, 2010 at 14:02

Moving your first settler can be negative if you're planning on gunning for an early religion. Something to think about - if you're going for an early religion make sure you choose a starting civ with mysticism so you're not too far behind.

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    And make sure you aren't playing on Emperor or higher, where I've found it virtually impossible to get an early religion. Even Judaism is a struggle even if you go straight for it...
    – bwarner
    Commented Sep 28, 2010 at 17:31
  • I disregarded this last weekend, when moving my warrior revealed a juicy corn resource nearby (my initial placement had elephant and spice nearby, neither very useful in the early game). I moved the settler and still got to Polytheism first. This was on Prince. Commented Oct 26, 2010 at 15:22
  • Nice. That is tough to do usually.
    – mote
    Commented Nov 12, 2010 at 16:39

Sometimes it is better to move your settler. Here are a few tips:

  • Move him to a hill for the best view of your surrounding land. To get an early start, look for a tile that has 2+ hammers. This is usually a hills/plains. When you plant your city on this tile, you get one extra hammer, meaning that you can create things faster. It does make a difference.

  • Look for a good food source. Every city needs a good food source to be strong. If you find a food source within the city radius of the tile that you want to plant your city, go ahead and do so. If there is an elephant next to your settler and food nearby, plant your city on the elephant. It will give you the extra hammer, plus save you a turn. The same goes with stone and marble nearby.

  • The best spot, however, is stone on hills/plains or marble on hills/plains because they give you 3 hammers in your city.


If you have only one settlers, usually you shouldn't move it (you waste many turns looking for a better place, and at the beggining they are very important).

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