Simply put, what is the most efficient use of karma at level 80?

I've reached 80k karma or so, and I've been looking to turn this karma into gold profits. Most armor and weapons take far too much karma to be useful, so I've started to look into using karma for cooking. As more players raise cooking, however, I find cooking to be fairly unprofitable.

Are there are any armors or weapons that efficiently use karma?

Assuming that I have only 100k karma, how can I efficiently use this karma to benefit a level 80 character?

  • Is your primary goal to convert karma into gold as efficiently as possible? Or are you trying to advance some character attribute?
    – Tacroy
    Sep 17, 2012 at 18:23
  • I have no goals in mind, as I've seen very few uses for karma, so I'd swing towards gold, so that I can advance in ways I know of.
    – Domocus
    Sep 17, 2012 at 19:16
  • 100k Karma!?! I haven't spent any of mine and I only have 25k.
    – Emerica.
    Sep 17, 2012 at 19:27
  • Do bear in mind that accounts got banned for converting Karma into Gold using an exploit. Karma is specifically designed to be separate from the gold economy.
    – Neon1024
    Sep 19, 2012 at 12:58
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    @DavidYell They got banned because they used a bug repeatedly that allowed them to convert karma into much more gold (like a thousandfold or something) than it was intended to.
    – Nicktar
    Sep 24, 2012 at 15:25

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There is no direct way to convert the karma into coins as all the items you trade with karma are immediately soulbound on acquire. However there are some important uses for karma.

If you ever want to level your cooking you will need to save some to buy recipe items. Although the cooking items aren't worth much on the trading post, the magic find bonus will give you better drops and the stat bonuses could effectively keep you alive when otherwise you wouldn't have. In this way you indirectly make money by not having to fix your armor. A copper saved is a copper earned.

Another important use for karma is to obtain recipes for crafting. With the exception of cooking, you need to buy recipes from all the master crafters in order to reach level 400 crafting. The crafting only reveal insignia/inscriptions up to level 350. Once you reach about level 380, all the recipes are grayed out and you can't earn any experience unless you use the recipes from the master crafter that you need karma to buy.

You can use it to buy armor and weapons and accessories from karma traders around the world to supplement your gear if any of them fall behind.

Please note that you should not use your karma to buy cultural weapons. The cultural weapons do not go towards any title and is only rare not exotic so it is not max stat. Since they cost 63k each, it is not an effective way to spend karma.

However outside the Gate of Arah, you are able to buy maxed Exotic Armor pieces for 42k karma a piece. I find this the most effective way to spend your karma. As of now, a piece of Exotic armor is equivalent to about 2.5g gold coins. If you save up the karma you can buy a complete exotic armor set and save about 15g you would otherwise have to directly spend.

  • I've attempted making a profit of the first two points, with mixed success. Is the Gate of Arah armor part of a set (with a rune attached)? I'm already able to buy a maxed set with gold, since I doubt I'll earn that amount of karma before farming CoF enough times.
    – Domocus
    Sep 18, 2012 at 3:55
  • While cultural weapons are "only" rares, they are bought for the skins. For example, i love the skins of the sereph longbow and greatsword, so that is where i spend my karma.
    – Ayrx
    Sep 18, 2012 at 14:19
  • @TerryChia while I agree with that, the OP is asking the most cost effective way to use karma. And gold weapons are worth much less in coins for more of a karma cost.
    – Jay
    Sep 18, 2012 at 15:38
  • Upvote for buying Temple Karma Vendor armour items.
    – Neon1024
    Sep 19, 2012 at 12:58

It depends on your current equip. If you got already an full exotic armor, you can spend the karma for obsidian shards. You can use these obsidian shards to create rare crafting materials at the mystic forge. If you still need an exotic armor, you should spend your karma for the orr armor pieces.


You need somewhere between 500k and 1mil karma per legendary weapon creation. That's what you should be saving every single penny for. For the armor, you should just buy a traveler's... lvl 79 set for the magic find and forget getting a lvl 80 exotic set all together until you have that legendary unless you plan on WvWing. Of course my advice is from someone who cares much more about how his weapon looks than his armor. You might be different.

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    Considering that I play Ranger, with a sweet looking short bow, I'd prefer not to go for a legendary that shoots flowers. Also, the stats on the legendary are the same as an exotic, which makes it completely useless.
    – Domocus
    Sep 24, 2012 at 16:16

There are ways to convert karma into gold.

You can buy Masterwork items from karma vendors such as Cachistic Gloves from Scholar Merla, forge them in the Mystic Forge and then receive Rare Items (so you can sell them on the Trading Post or salvage them), as you can check in this Karma to gold Experiment. The rate would be something like 1k karma = 3.4silver.

But, as in 28 January patch, players are able to buy Lost Orrian Jewelry Boxes for 4.5k karma each from Orr karma vendors, opening it may gives you karma liquids, lodestones and unidentifiable object.

According to this post, buying Lost Orrian Jewerly boxes is way more profitable (Like 80% more).

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