I just realized that you can actually set a population cap with the Dwarf Fortress LazyNewbPack. I made a game and set it to 50, I feel like that's all I really need to function efficiently and not make me want to slit my wrists (metaphorically), but I'm a tad worried about really late game and what might happen with the limits of such a small population when:

releasing clowns (e.g., "hell" demons) or fighting FB.

Is it necessary to have a large population to survive late game?

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    Just a note that changing the population cap is possible on vanilla DF by editing the POPULATION_CAP setting in the d_init.txt configuration file Commented Nov 2, 2012 at 15:39
  • I figured it was, I personally never bother if it takes me more then a few clicks to change settings. @YiJiang
    – Paralytic
    Commented Nov 2, 2012 at 15:45

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Population size is a trigger for the arrival of some nobles and the features they bring, the least number of dwarves you need before unlocking all of the features is 140 (the condition for becoming a metropolis and hosting the monarch of your civilization). You can check the population requirements for various nobles on DF wiki. Some people would consider less nobles to be a benefit rather than a drawback.

I wouldn't say you need more than 50 to deal with the late game, because if that number is not enough then the fortress will crumble with more than 50 in any case due to tantrums. If you want to make sure your fortress goes on forever, have a couple dwarves in solitary confinement (surrounded by natural or constructed walls, floors and ceilings) with a small farm, some beds, barrels, a kitchen and a brewery, preferably fresh migrants so they won't know anybody and therefore won't mind if everybody gets slaughtered.

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    are tantrums really bad enough that confining dwarves is almost necessary? lol
    – Paralytic
    Commented Nov 2, 2012 at 15:25
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    It really depends. If you expect to have 50 dwarves slaughtered, then you would be lucky to have even 1 survive with his wits about him after all the tantrums, no matter how many you had.
    – kotekzot
    Commented Nov 2, 2012 at 15:29

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