I always tend to die before being too much encumbered or filling my BoH enough, but I wonder: what is the ultimate stash configuration?

I heard about boulder forts, but also blue jelly fort. I understand how to build a boulder fort (scroll of earth are good for that), but blue jelly fort... Do I need to reverse genocide them? Are the advantages of such a fort worth the spending of a scroll of genocide?

  • permanently engraved Elbereth usually makes for the best stash
    – l I
    Nov 26, 2012 at 23:24
  • That's a minimal Stash. I want the one with the options
    – Jerome
    Nov 26, 2012 at 23:25

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There are absolutely no advantages to anything beyond a container (which will prevent anything but a gel cube from affecting your stash at all in any way) and a permanent Elbereth (which will keep the gel cube off too.) Add a single boulder on top if you have any pets capable of lifting the container.

Reverse genociding blue jellies for the purpose is just silly.

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    As somebody who's only played enough Nethack to get myself in trouble - what's the talk about blue jellies, anyway? What could you do with them?
    – Shinrai
    Nov 27, 2012 at 16:06
  • Blue jellies are completely immobile, so they can be used to block off areas to prevent anything else from accessing them. It's also easy to create a lot of them because they split when they're attacked enough by non-cold-resistant attackers (when their passive attack damages you). This isn't particularly useful, although in one case a player filled Sokoban entirely with blue jellies to prevent anything else from spawning in order to overflow the turn counter and finish the game in a negative number of turns.
    – Wooble
    Nov 27, 2012 at 16:11
  • So they don't attack you? For that matter how would you get to the stash?
    – Shinrai
    Nov 27, 2012 at 16:32
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    presumably by teleporting to it, although this is another reason not to try something like this for a stash.
    – Wooble
    Nov 27, 2012 at 16:33
  • how do you make an elbereth permanent?
    – Bob
    Aug 28, 2013 at 16:18

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