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I have been playing Jayce as solo top, and I found him very efficient during the laning phase. But when this phase ends and late game starts, I tend to lose effectiveness. I especially notice it in team fights. If I enter a fight in hammer form, I find myself dying too early. If I try to help my team from afar with the cannon form, my damage output is not very high.

What can I do to improve Jayce's late game? How should I be playing him?

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  • Although this question doesn't really mesh well with the intent of this site, I'd recommend looking less towards cc and more towards utility, poking in team fights(drop a acceleration gate and poke with shock blast), and dealing some damage. Good luck, jayce is a pretty powerful champ.
    – Brian
    Commented Oct 1, 2012 at 18:41
  • Thanks Brian, i'm very new to Arqade, and now i see that my question is not well formulated. Maybe it would have been better ask something like "how can I get full effectiveness from jayce at late game", something like this. Thanks again.
    – PedroJack
    Commented Oct 1, 2012 at 19:21
  • @PedroJack It's not too late to edit your question. Are there specific problems you are experiencing with Jayce that you want to describe? Or is this purely speculative?
    – Sadly Not
    Commented Oct 1, 2012 at 20:02
  • @toN yldaS my main problem with Jayce is when it comes to team fights. If i try to enter in a fight with the hammer form, I find myself dying too early. If i try to help my team from afar with the cannon form, my damage output is not too hight.
    – PedroJack
    Commented Oct 1, 2012 at 20:12
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    Why not edit the question to be "How to be effective late game as Jayce"? Commented Oct 1, 2012 at 21:57

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In this case it sounds like your play style is off because your build may be off. It's important to remember how you build, you aren't going to beat a ranged carry in pure ranged DPS battle. Honestly you should use your range skills quickly and drop in as hammer form as you gain mana per hit and armor and mr passively while in it.

Since this is mostly a late game thing I'll give you an idea on how your build should look in the end.

  1. Trinity Force: Self explanatory, sheen proc works wonders with all your abilities and on hits, mana is vital to you, HP, AD, Slow for the rare moments one of your slows are down, movement speed off zeal gives a fairly high movement speed even when off your stance switch ghost

  2. Heart of Gold/Randuins Omen: More hp to put on top of the trinity force, the GP5 for heart of gold early adds up especially if you grab a philo early on (You should jayce ate some mana cost nerfs so he's hungry for mana). The randuins cripples the enemy team once you jump in with the hammer and the armor ensures physicals won't just eat you.

  3. Merc Treads: Must have, need the MR to round out the build and the tenacity for when you jump in is vital

  4. Banshee Veil: I've removed maw and swapped for this after some gold efficiency charts and general theorycrafting. The flat health all the time is better than the shield on the basis it takes all damage. The Mr is higher and the mana gives you more room to spam and fight in team fights. It also makes you virtually impossible to initiate on and most of the AOE damage you take in a fight is from magic. The damage loss is negligible on the basis you might actually survive the team fight.

  5. Last Whisper: Absolute must have, for pure physical damage nothing trumps last whisper especially end game. At 30 Armor on the enemy is does more damage than an unstacked bloodthirster and at 103 it does more than a fully stacked bloodthirster and it's cheaper. You may want this before maw, if so, grab a hexdrinker for the MR, AD and shield and go straight for this.

  6. Completely up to you: This last item slot is for whatever you need to counter the opposing team. Need to survive poke? Force of nature. Want to sponge more damage and go in earlier? Warmogs. Need more damage? Black Cleaver/IE/Bloodthirster

This is by no means a build order, you may only want sheen early and then rush randuins. This is a final build idea. Remember a massive portion of your damage is your skills and only half are actually affected by AD so building tanky early on can let you still hurt.

As Jayce you are the most dynamic character on the field and you need a firm grasp as to what your team needs from you. If they need a damage sponge early on in engages, you need to build for that. If they've got a nasty nocturne eating your AD carry, you sit by that AD carry until noc arrives and you knock him away with your hammer and leap onto him afterwards. You've got an initiate? You throw your gate down and shoot your Q into them and hammer leap in while popping randuins and eat their AD carry. Don't forgot that your hammer stance gives you mana on hit and Armor and MR passively while in it.

For most engages you'll want to start in ranged mode, land a quick gate followed by Q as well as a sheen proc and the on hit MR/AR reduction from the ranged swap and then leap in on a squishy or keep a tanky dps off your AD carry with your hammer stance and the CC from it. I highly suggest smart casting with jayce otherwise it takes too long to use all these abilities and then join the fray, cause otherwise your tank/other tanky dps will die.

If you notice this build leans heavily towards being a tanky dps, the reason for this is because his damage can all be put out in a fast barrage and then you can quickly close the distance afterwards. As far as being a ranged carry, Jayce has one of the lowest attack ranges and no steroids besides a fast three shot. His DPS is not so great honestly. He's more of a tanky dps that can attack from range. Don't forgot about his ranged skills as you need to jump between using all of his abilities all the time, don't just AA unless you are nothing but cooldowns or are OOM.

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  • This is a perfect answer. You should write an entire guide. :P Commented Oct 9, 2012 at 16:02
  • No way man, I don't do a lot of ranked but I play a ton of normals with friends. Our normals look more like high elo matches than regular normals but I still don't have the total match up and game experience on Jayce to back up a guide. I'm good with theories and builds, in play not so much. I also don't have the time lol.
    – Shykin
    Commented Oct 9, 2012 at 16:11
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Jayce relies on combos to be effective, and also you should keep in mind his passive Hexcore Capacitor triggers on changing form. Rather than entering in hammer form at the outset, switching & then going in for a stun can help more.

In ranged form, his team speed boost using Acceleration Gate is very useful for chasing, running away or positioning mid-fight. Also remember to shoot Shock Blast through that for 40% extra range and damage. The first attack in ranged form shreds enemy armor & MR by %age, so consider tagging a tanky enemy right after you switch.

His melee Q+E combo is useful to reposition enemies to help out your team - whether its knocking someone into your turret or team range, or knocking them out of range.

As for your specific scenario, Jayce is reasonably tanky but not really meant to be an initiator. If there is another tank (esp someone like Malphite), they will start the fight before you join in. Start in ranged mode, use E so allies can chase and get in range quickly, then focus on whoever is closest or going after the carry. Just because you can jump to an enemy with melee Q doesn't mean you should be going in their midst to hit their ADC - save that for chasing at the end when it won't get you focused by the entire enemy team.

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