I am playing CK2 with my friends in the Byzantine Empire. He is the emperor while I picked a duke in the kingdom. When he got enough money, he then created the Kingdom of Greece and gave it to me. But now, even though I have Agnatic-Cognatic Primogeniture, and I have a son, my friend (the emperor) is the still the heir to my kingdom. What can I do to fix this?

EDIT: Any time I give away a title like a dutchy, I'm am the heir for title.


The title in question is a viceroyalty. Viceroyalties were added in the Charlemagne DLC and are less permanent titles used by The Byzantines (and other empireswith high legalism tech).

Viceroyalties are not inherited on death. Instead, the title returns to your liege who can give it to someone else.

To grant you a permanent title, your friend needs to grant it with the "grant landed title" button rather than the "grant viceroyalty" button. However, your friend probably already knows this.

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  • Does this mean, on my current playthrough, I should avoid getting the DLC if I want permanent titles? Does it carry out through current games during all years? – user92092 Apr 19 '15 at 1:38
  • @FinnRayment You can choose which DLC to enable and disable when you run CK2. Though if you don't like features in a DLC you probably shouldn't get it. – You're bad and should feel bad Apr 19 '15 at 10:44
  • @FinnRayment Although, as I said, Viceroyalties aren't the norm. For anyone besides the ERE to get them, they need high legalism, max crown authority, an empire and they need to survive the transition (feudal lords object to viceroyalties, for obvious reasons). – You're bad and should feel bad Apr 19 '15 at 15:14
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    @FinnRayment And again, this only affects titles that are handed out by a liege, and is only an option for the liege. There's almost no difference for the vast majority of playthrough. – Affine Apr 19 '15 at 17:30
  • Thanks for the responses guys. As for disabling it during run, I forgot all about that! :P – user92092 Apr 20 '15 at 6:07

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