What's the optimal (the easiest) progress path (order of bosses killed) for heroic raids in Mists of Pandaria in tier 14? I'm mainly interested in 10 men HC.
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Please consider removing all of the abbreviations so the question is more clear to everyone.– JamesCommented Jan 2, 2013 at 12:13
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4@James With all due respect, but it's common knowledge among Blizzard's community. More or less, it's like going to superuser and saying - don't write CPU, use full name. I could argue that most people are more familiar with abbreviations then with long forms.– StupidOneCommented Jan 2, 2013 at 12:42
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Respect is fine and all that but in general with every other game on here where acronyms are common, for instance LoL, we do ask that people spell them out completely as it does make for a better question and answer that is more widely applicable to both new users and veterans of long running games like them.– JamesCommented Jan 2, 2013 at 17:14
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@James there isn't a single abbreviation in this question which isn't used in its full form somewhere else within the question.– LessPop_MoreFizzCommented Jan 2, 2013 at 18:24
1 Answer
Based on numbers of kills (10 and 25 man combined) it looks like the progression path is like follows:
- Heroic Mogu'shan Vaults: Stone Guard
- Heroic Mogu'shan Vaults: Feng the Accursed
- Heroic Mogu'shan Vaults: Gara'jal the Spiritbinder
- Heroic Mogu'shan Vaults: Elegon
- Heroic Heart of Fear: Blade Lord Ta'yak
- Heroic Mogu'shan Vaults: Four Kings
- Heroic Heart of Fear: Wind Lord Mel'jarak
- Heroic Mogu'shan Vaults: Will of the Emperor
- Heroic Heart of Fear: Garalon
- Heroic Heart of Fear: Imperial Vizier Zor'lok
- Heroic Heart of Fear: Amber-Shaper Un'sok
- Heroic Terrace of Endless Spring: Lei Shi
- Heroic Terrace of Endless Spring: Protectors of the Endless
- Heroic Heart of Fear: Grand Empress Shek'zeer
- Heroic Terrace of Endless Spring: Tsulong
- Heroic Terrace of Endless Spring: Sha of Fear
There is more Heroic Stone Guard kills than Normal Grand Empress Shek'zeer and Sha of Fear kills. This could be because it is easier than the 2 bosses on normal or because it has been out longer. But it looks like it is around the time you are missing one of thous bosses on normal you should start on heroic.
Most guilds will push for kills in the order that the bosses occur in, so the list will of course also reflect that (since it is ordered by number of guilds that have killed the boss), and the team composition you have available may also affect your preferred path.
For 10 man only kills the list is changed a bit:
- Heroic Mogu'shan Vaults: Stone Guard
- Heroic Mogu'shan Vaults: Feng the Accursed
- Heroic Mogu'shan Vaults: Gara'jal the Spiritbinder
- Heroic Mogu'shan Vaults: Elegon
- Heroic Mogu'shan Vaults: Four Kings
- Heroic Heart of Fear: Blade Lord Ta'yak
- Heroic Mogu'shan Vaults: Will of the Emperor
- Heroic Heart of Fear: Wind Lord Mel'jarak
- Heroic Heart of Fear: Garalon
- Heroic Heart of Fear: Imperial Vizier Zor'lok
- Heroic Heart of Fear: Amber-Shaper Un'sok
- Heroic Terrace of Endless Spring: Lei Shi
- Heroic Terrace of Endless Spring: Protectors of the Endless
- Heroic Heart of Fear: Grand Empress Shek'zeer
- Heroic Terrace of Endless Spring: Tsulong
- Heroic Terrace of Endless Spring: Sha of Fear
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Yeah, my mistake, I forgot to write down I'm interested in 10 men raids. Nevertheless, thanks, +1. Commented Jan 2, 2013 at 16:13
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1I don't mind getting a down vote if there is something wrong. But could you please add a comment about what you think is wrong when down voting?– BlemCommented Feb 3, 2013 at 19:44
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Just going to point out that this is wrong. The fact is, that you can "NOT" progress to the next boss on heroic difficulty without killing the previous boss on heroic at least once. For this question, this difficulty structuring completely invalidates the given answer. As for standard farming for gear, this answer would be correct, as those are the bosses that are killed more for drops than for progression. And boss data has never been listed by the amount of guilds that have killed them, they are listed by number of total downs, by guild/pug/what have you.– RaveknerCommented Feb 10, 2013 at 16:28
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1@Ravekner Some bosses do require you to kill the previous to proceed on heroic, but some of them you can skip, a good example is Four Kings and Elegon where a lot of guilds revers progression order. Did you even look at the link I posted? it shows how many guilds have taken it down, not number of times it have been killed, though if two guilds went together (split evenly) and killed a boss on 25 man it would show as two 10 man kills, but i doubt that happens a lot.– BlemCommented Feb 10, 2013 at 17:46
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1Very simple, they kill Spirit Kings on normal, go to Elegon and then change the instance to heroic. There is no special trick for it, once you have unlocked heroic version of a dungeon many of the non final boss can be killed on heroic with out killing others. In Heroic Terrace of Endless Spring Nearly 2x the Guilds have killed Lei Shi (the 3rd boss) than Protectors of the Endless(1st boss).– BlemCommented Feb 11, 2013 at 0:04