A friend of mine has an old Commodore 64. It has a video output, and we are wondering how to connect the C64 to a VGA or DVI computer monitor.
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@powtac You can try a getting a S Video/Video To VGA Converter.– KrazerCommented Jul 13, 2012 at 20:24
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Not sure about the video plug, but I remember just using a male-male composite cable to plug it into a TV, but maybe that's not an option?– ThorCommented Jul 13, 2012 at 20:27
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There was a male to male composite cable with the box... But we want to run it with a PC display.– powtacCommented Jul 13, 2012 at 20:32
4 Answers
Here's how to make an S-Video cable:
This is the C-64 pinout (the early version of the C64 only has pins 1 to 5):
The S-Video looks like this:
So the objective is to create a patch cable that goes something like this:
C64 Pin | S-Video Pin |
---|---|
2 | 1 |
2 | 2 |
4/6 | 3 |
1 | 4 |
If you have an early C64, you must use pin 4 as your chrominance signal. If you have a later 8-pin A/V connector, then you can use pin 6.
I already have a C64 to 1702 monitor cable. This cable breaks the C64 A/V port into three RCA jacks: audio, chroma, and luma (sync on luma). So I will cheat. I will make a crossover cable. The aim of the crossover cable is to take the RCA luma and chroma inputs from my C64 cable and cross the conductors to the S Video mini DIN output. I will do this by cutting up a pair of old RCA cables and a S-Video cable.
The resulting crossover cable looks like this:
The route I initially took with this question was to use a couple converters, something like RF to RCA to VGA. This gentleman was able to accomplish this with a little work:
http://www.commodoreserver.com/BlogEntryView.asp?EID=F4B967500A894E10BE4A104C65DB541E
Another route may be a converter box, which tend to cost a little more money but don't require the labor to get working. Something like this from eBay may be appropriate:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120619073385
If you go with the converter box route, make sure it has either an RF or 8-pin S-Video input (I say 8-pin just to be sure even though RandInLA from the first article says pins 7 and 8 aren't even internally connected).
According to allpinouts.org the video jack only provides composite output like the RF jack, so what you are looking for is a composite to VGA or DVI converter.
Commodore C64's VIDEO connector outputs something similar to S-Video.
This 8-pin DIN in addition to having the composite video output on pin 4, also now had both a separate LUMA (luminance) and CHROMA (chrominance) output on pins 1 and 6.
At the time this was known as Commodore Video but what Commodore had done was to basically implement what would one day be called S-Video which improved picture quality dramatically from the RF and composite signals.
So buy a C64 8-pin DIN to S-Videos cable,
or a C64 8-pin DIN to RCA cable.
(at e.g. 8bitclassics, Ebay, etc.)
Then a perfect monitor to use (if you can find one) is the Dell 2001FP
It is equipped with three analog ports:
S-Video, Composite, and VGA 15-pin D-sub
Use a C64 8-pin DIN to S-Video cable to connect the C64 to the Dell 2001FP.
The Dell 2001FP also benefits from having an optional soundbar – it's an easy way to provide an integrated audio system for the C64.
Connect a 3.5mm mono to stereo cable (that converts your C64’s usually mono audio to "stereo" audio) between the C64 and a Dell AC/AS/AX5XX soundbar.